Linux Support is over - past present and future versions...

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Linux Support is over - past present and future versions...

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Hi all

I have been advised on a support thread that Linux will 'probably' not be supported on Anime Studio Pro 7. I presume this goes for all future versions since:

"The new version of Anime Studio Pro 7 includes new features that are not support under the Linux Operating System; therefore, it’s unlikely that there will be a version 7 Linux release." (John Csaky)

A sad day - perhaps - I haven't used the product so I can't know for sure but the Linux support was the reason I had decided to give ASP a go even though I run other OSs at times.

The statement by John is a bit off putting for anyone who knows a little about computers (ie most Linux users) - obviously Linux OS will support anything ASP can throw at it. I guess he means the subsystems might make it harder or easier to achieve... more code might need to be rewritten...
I'm not sure I care enough to boot into Windows XP which runs slow on my tablet PC compared to Linux.

John also advised:
"Anime Studio 6 is not available as a Trial. The program has been discontinued. I do not show it being available for sale anymore. I will add that it is not compatible with your version of Linux."

My version of Linux on my tabletpc is Ubuntu 10.04. Has anyone successfully got ASP 6 running on this Ubuntu version? Is it generally the case that a Linux upgrade will obsolete an ASP version? This would make it all a bit pointless - no one will animate on an out of date workstation unless they're stranded in the middle of a project.

Appreciate any input on this.
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When you quote someone please site it, add a link to where you got your data.

Journalism 101...

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I had intended to link to it and in fact I am a journalist!

For some reason my 'Incident Report' discussion has not made it into the "product answers" part of the Smith Micro website as I would expect. Hence I can't link to the discussion even though I can visit it myself while logged in to support.

If anyone doubts the accuracy of the quotes or wants to see the full logs then email me ... grayASKDJASLS(at)GDSFSDFkarricountry.com.au Delete all the letters in capitals which are my improvised anti spam filter.

I felt it was important the community know this information since I searched this forum and the only info was an unanswered question by someone about ASP Pro 7.0 Linux support.

I am somewhat interested in running ASP 6 if this is viable but John did not give me that impression.
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gravly wrote:I had intended to link to it and in fact I am a journalist!

For some reason my 'Incident Report' discussion has not made it into the "product answers" part of the Smith Micro website as I would expect. Hence I can't link to the discussion even though I can visit it myself while logged in to support.

If anyone doubts the accuracy of the quotes or wants to see the full logs then email me ... grayASKDJASLS(at)GDSFSDFkarricountry.com.au Delete all the letters in capitals which are my improvised anti spam filter.

I felt it was important the community know this information since I searched this forum and the only info was an unanswered question by someone about ASP Pro 7.0 Linux support.

I am somewhat interested in running ASP 6 if this is viable but John did not give me that impression.
I have no doubt that what you post is not incorrect, its just that you joined the forums today and posted some data that was not cited. We get a lot of spam here and if you are legit please post more and get to know the community.
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Re: Linux Support is over - past present and future versions

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gravly wrote:My version of Linux on my tabletpc is Ubuntu 10.04. Has anyone successfully got ASP 6 running on this Ubuntu version?
I ran ASP 6 on earlier versions of Ubuntu. So I don't see why it wouldn't run on 10.04.

I believe the linux version was dropped due to the lack of sales. No offense but linux users tend to go with freeware stuff. Which kills the sales for developers who spend time making software for that OS.

In my mind if linux users want programs like Flash CS5, Anime Studio, and other software not available for linux, then start paying for software. Otherwise developers like Adobe and so forth won't give it the time of day.

Now I do feel bad for the linux users who have been purchasing Anime Studio since the Moho days. Since there's no more updates. But it's still nice as at least there's an older version (if you purchased it) of Moho/Anime Studio to use.

On a side note, I uninstalled Ubuntu about six months ago after using it for years. It's a good OS but I could never go totally linux. I have to many programs that's not available on it and I don't care much for switching back and forth, OS wise.
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Thanks J. Baker. I would still love it if someone is able to confirm that ASP 6 will run on Ubuntu 10.04. (Deleted incorrect info here)

I am a Linux user who is definitely prepared to spend money on software but I can't even consider the $1,000+ price points of packages like Animate Pro, After Effects, Photoshop etc.

Anime Pro is a price point I can afford and I was fully committed to buying if I liked the demo. I did the research and discovered it had features I could enjoy learning.

(Deleted incorrect info here)

I am a media artist and had recently resigned myself to having to accept the use of the Windows platform. I play with lots of Open Source Software (not freeware) but in a lot of areas my creative expression has begun to be hampered by immature software.

Then I got a tablet PC and discovered that not only did it run a lot faster on Ubuntu than XP, but also that GIMP, MyPaint and Alchemy, my fave programs, were much more solid on the Linux platform than Windows.

Synfig, a vector animator for Linux, is ok but I really want to be able to take the next step with animation and felt some more finished software was in order...

If ASP is not viable on Linux going into the future I'm not sure what product I will choose. Moving to the Windows platform ASP is still possible but I also have a lot more choice: at this stage I am thinking to procure some older version of Toon Boom that will run at good speed on my slow tablet pc.
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Ooops had to correct previous post... It seems there is still a Linux version available (ASP 6.0 Pro) even though all the 5.0, 6.0 downloads appeared to have been deleted.

If you select Anime Pro for Linux it takes you to the 6.0 version.

...No trial available but still looks available for purchase. A pain not having a trial given potential compatability issues...

Please - anyone tested Ubuntu 10.04 compatibility or have info about likely compatibility with further distro upgrades in future?
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Well after that shenanigans I took the plunge anyway with ASP 6. I guess you'll get your wish sbtamu about me posting more.

Downloading...
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gravly

Please post soon and let everyone know how ASP 6.0 runs on Ubuntu 10.04.
Have fun animating!

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Hi

I will start a new thread right now.
viewtopic.php?t=16971&start=0&postdays= ... highlight=

It seems to basically work...
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gravly wrote:Well after that shenanigans I took the plunge anyway with ASP 6. I guess you'll get your wish sbtamu about me posting more.

Downloading...
LOL I'm glad you are not another spam bot, welcome to AS. :D
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Post by cantonsen »

I have Anime Studio Pro 6 Linux. It was first installed on a Celeron 1.7GHz laptop running fedora 11. No issues at all. Actually it worked really nice.

It works also in Fedora 12 and 13. And even works nice on my Acer Aspire One (Fedora 13), you know, the 1st generation netbook.....

Now I use Linux Mint 9, and the linux version of Anime Studio simply works, no issues.

For those who doesn't know, Mint is based on ubuntu.


And a little comment to "Linux users want only free software...:"
.....Okay so we have to start paying for software..... before we see adobe go linux, but why would I buy xp or mac versons of adobe software, when I'm only using linux.......

I bought Anime Studio Pro 6, and it seems to be the last version supporting linux. It's a shame. I was actually just about to hit "buy" on ASP 7, and then realized, it's not for linux.....

I really hope they will reconsider their decission....
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Post by rylleman »

I too feel it's a shame linux support is discontinued for Anime Studio. Gradually I will phase out ASpro in my production pipeline for other apps that do run natively on linux, but I still have projects planned where I will use it.

Aspro working on linux was actually the one tipping point that made me switch to linux. Now I can't imagine work without it.

I'm using ASpro 6 on Ubuntu 8.10 and 10.04. I just upgraded this machine from 9.04 to 10.04 and ASpro feels a lot more sluggish. Objects are slightly dragging behind, pointer release are detected a few milliseconds too late etc. It might be something that I can tweak in the system but for now it's very annoying.

Im' also trying out ASpro 7 windows version through wine and it actually does run very well. Some features does not work (library for example, but who uses that anyway?) and you don't have any good desktop integration. But it's definitely workable through wine.
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Post by gravly »

Well... there's at least three votes for Linux support to continue...

...it would be worth something if it could work through wine but ASpro with missing features and functionality doesn't sound so good...

I am also running on Ubuntu 10.04, in my case on a tablet pc. I wonder if you are using some sort of stylus input device rylleman?

In case you are, I have a custom xorg.conf which fixed my own lag problem... ASpro is now working really well and smoothly on a pretty slow computer. I have no pressure sensitivity but it isn't worrying me.

Here is the thread with solution...
viewtopic.php?t=16972

...currently wondering whether to risk the 10.10 upgrade.
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Post by Genete »

+1 for AS Linux support.
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