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honey, I shrunk the movie

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:00 pm
by thies
the movie is just over 2 minutes long, and I'm still trying to make it smaller but I don't like what i get....
I made it 256x144 pixels with a MPEG4 compressor. (the original is 1024x576). and it's still 30 MB.
It's easy to make it smaller and compress it more but it's rather dark and that seems to be hard to compress. the colours get ugly especially when its dark.
I hope somebody knows a site (like Zippyvideos) where it's possible to upload my 30 MB for free....
cutting it in pieces is also an option I am honoured if you would go to the trouble of glueing it back together... I dont know winrar but i have premiére so that won't be a problem. where should i send it?

anyway; just one shot then; this took me a lot off time too, I know the men got a little bit of funny walk but it had to be finnished so....

http://www.zippyvideos.com/150402806421475.html

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:21 pm
by Lost Marble
Don't use Premiere to split it - that would involve cutting apart a video file, re-splicing it, and possibly re-compressing the video. WinRAR is a general-purpose compression program. It can split up any kind of file into multiple parts that can later be re-assembled. This method doesn't require editing the video back together, with the associated risk of messing it up.

WinZip can do this too - just put the movie in a .zip file, and then use WinZip's Split command to chop it up into several smaller pieces and email them to webmaster@lostmarble.com. You can download WinZip for here:

http://www.winzip.com/

this weekend....

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:34 pm
by thies
i'll try to send you the movie this weekend,
i still have a lot learning to do (2 exams left...)

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:26 pm
by Lost Marble
Don't forget - it looks really interesting. Good luck with the exams!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:02 pm
by Regul8R
Lost Marble wrote:Don't forget - it looks really interesting. Good luck with the exams!
agreed. it looks great, love the gritty, industrial look. look forward to see more.

jay b

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:15 am
by 00moa00
I really want to see it too !

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:34 pm
by cribble
How long now? i really want to see this, it looks real good.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:21 pm
by thies
sorry it takes so long, there is a minor problem with the copyright for the music....
soon it will be shown, if everything works out... thank you all for your interest
thies

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:05 pm
by Lost Marble
It took a while to get the file transferred and sound removed, but Thies's movie is now available in our online gallery. It's called "Underground" and is the first movie on the following page:

http://www.lostmarble.com/moho/gallery/ ... deos.shtml

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:37 pm
by jorgy
Wow.


Wow.


Wow.

I'll have to dig up the music tonight at home, and maybe I can comment further then. :-)

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:20 pm
by Toontoonz
Nice style. Lots of work to put that together.

Could you give us some more information about the making of your animation?

How did you draw the art? Moho? Hand? Or?
Did you use any other programs in addition to Moho?

thanks

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:26 pm
by thies
i'm glad you like it, it was a lot of work...
it's a pity you can not see it with the music because it was made entirely based upon the rythm and sound. and without it is a bit dull...
after i heard the music i started scetching after some beautiful photoalbums from industrial mining sites.( made around the 1950's in belgium, holland and germany)
(a random example; http://www.ta.tudelft.nl/coalpage/main_pagenl.htm)
and i wanted to make a film witch kept the rough, dirty look of my scetches witch suited the industrial feeling i wanted.
the way you can put bones in images in moho is realy great for that, allthough i hope it will be develloped some more because this style still has a lot of (minor) bugs when you take this feature this far.
the images i used are pencil coloured and modified with a wacom tablet in photoshop.
all the special effects are done in moho except for the light from the ovens, witch is done by toon roebben (thanks again) , in shake.
i am proud of the smoke and lighter effects when he lights his sigarette, the light effects from the train could have been better(and probably a lot easyer with another program like after effects or shake for example.)
well, i dont no what to say else,i hope this answers your questions.


ciao,
thies

Congratulations

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:52 am
by ming_goku
Congratulations, the short is awesome. The music of the soundtrack it´s Tom Wait's theme, underground?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:53 pm
by 2ner
Excellent little film. Great production values. Maybe Tom Wait would be glad to let you use his song if he saw it. I know I would if I were him. I don't know how those things work though, with record companies and all.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:09 pm
by Rasheed
2ner wrote:I don't know how those things work though, with record companies and all.
I'm no expert either, but IIRC you'd have to pay royalties in these situations. Copyright organizations have guidelines for that, claim the royalties after you've asked for permission to use a song in your artwork, and pass that on the rightful owner of the song (which might be the record company). If you're not prepared to pay royalties, you could be sued for software piracy (music is software in legal terms, it seems).