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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:29 pm
by mr. blaaa
well, nice topic. nice discussion.
when i someaday get more money, i'll purchase Xara and the equipment :D

retrace

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:10 pm
by jakob polack
Hi - I just happened to see your discussion - right now im considering how to get drawn characters into moho - can moho trace ???

regards - jakob

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:59 am
by BigBack
Well an update on my situation.

I ended up opting for the corel draw 12 package getting the $99 upgrade price cause I am a freehand user.

With the corel suite you get draw, photopaint, rave and jakob of interest possibly to you is corel trace, which does a very nice job of vector tracing objects.

After a couple of weeks with draw I am quite happy I think. Lots of nice tools and the workflow is pretty nice to. I miss the lasso selection tool, but other than that I havent really missed a beat.

Another tip to consider getting art into moho is Macromedia Flashpaper. At $79 for a license flashpaper, it lets you create pdf or swf files directly from the print dialogue or your application of choice be it corel, freehand xara, whatever. Anyway from there I import the file into flash, and export illustrator files for moho from flash. Kinda a few steps, but it has been worth it as I am able to import gradients and most vector effects I have thrown at it.

Cheers,

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:09 pm
by box
BigBack, I am ambigous about the future and fate of Freehand. I agree with squeakydave. Maybe Adobe will sell it, Freehand has been sold several times in its life. And this might be to its best. Macromedia has just spoiled this gem. It just can get better again.

Freehand has always been my favourite vector drawing and even layout tool, but from v.8 it has decreased slightly, too many bugs, unnecessary features, instability...
Compare the quality of freehand strokes, brushes in Freehand vs. Illustrator! Illustrators strokes are of much better quality, they follow the path much better and are smoother. And since most of the workflow continues in Photoshop or After Effects, Illustrator is better integrated, even in Flash (!).

Expression was always kind of a secret tip, but to be honest, I never managed to get good design out of it. Looked too... artificial. But it was quite handy for designing stroke-style logos.
I always thought "it would be cool if you could ANIMATE those strokes", and they had this as a project on their website which never left beta-stage. (And now I am here! :-)
And of course I am a bit disappointed with these nice guys from Hongkong since they sold their souls to the empire of evil ;-)

Corel... errr. So maybe after all, they managed to make a good product, but since the Mac development has discontinued, I will not be able to tell.

Some kind of design I am doing in Flash, it is by far the fastest tool. Draw quickly, modify, paint and erase,... this way you can even do some vector-based frame-by-frame animation, if the budget allows...
Pixels: I use Photoshop a lot, of course, and Painter, though I still do not like its GUI. But since most of my work is based on comic style, most of my stuff is done vector-based, using a cintiq tablet.

But sometimes I STILL work on a light-table with punched paper.

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:57 am
by BigBack
box wrote: Freehand has always been my favourite vector drawing and even layout tool, but from v.8 it has decreased slightly, too many bugs, unnecessary features, instability...
Compare the quality of freehand strokes, brushes in Freehand vs. Illustrator! Illustrators strokes are of much better quality, they follow the path much better and are smoother. And since most of the workflow continues in Photoshop or After Effects, Illustrator is better integrated, even in Flash (!).
Hey Box

I have to disagree with you on the integration part re: Freehand and Illustrator and Flash. I have found that native Freehand files no matter how complex come into Flash 100% clean and perfect. I have had nothing but troubles getting anything complicated from illustrator to Flash although the cs 2 release has improved this alot.

I have been with Freehand since version 5 on the PC so MAC troubles I cant speak of. At work the designers use illustrator on the mac but to be honest no matter how often I try to use illustrator I just hate it LOL!!!

Freehand now though since XP service pack 2 is unacceptably slow and not worth even loading up. Something in xp 2 doesnt agree with Freehand?

All this has made me learn the illustration tools in Flash and I am glad I did. Now that I understand them Flash art tools rock!!!

So I do layouts.logos and design in corel draw but the majority of my art is done inside of flash natively.

Cheers,