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Esperanto is damn complicated!
(try to imagine a US President has to take him time and learn esperanto; so there be no more wars )

Although my english is not very well, i think english is the best international language one should use.
Its relatively simple (compared to french (urghh) or russian (dance for me mister polkaman! ) and easy to learn/understand/speak/pronounce/etc.

But we might not forget, that a globalized world takes its first step of the second wave by enforcing lingual conformity...

And, as we all have trouble floating in the first wave of globalized capitalism, i am afraid we wont survive the deadly power of the second...

The goal behind why in europe the trend of speaking english official or in business is keeping on is:
economical, political and lingual unity of whole europe, so the third world can be enslaved by
the US, the new Russia, the new China which is NO LONGER (since Mao Tse Tung died) communist at all (take a look at Beijing, Shanghai etc.; the workers lose their homes and everything they got, while international combines build their palaces on the soil of the people...) and last but not least a unified Europe of the future.

Reliably sources of information say, this process of unification shall be done until 2015.

So, they need the bad bad fictional terrorists a bit longer than we thought...

Some terrorist attacks on big cities in europe, then a common "security agreement" is being released and the game goes on, until in 2015 europe has the unity the capitalist conspiracies are working at...

then its time for the final step: ultimate exploitation of the third world.

(if you think iam talking sh*t, just ignore it and we'll see us again 2015)

don't believe the hype...

I tried Esperanto long ago. I can't remember a word of it.

Japanese is another language that someone someday said all we had to learn, since Japan was becoming a big competitor.

Spanish is a second language that is being teached in school at USA. Hummm.

Talking about Spanish, they are too having some controversial discussions, since many words are gender specific, and now the equality between men and women is the fashion, instead of saying:
"Los niños de hoy son los padres del futuro, los visionarios constructores del mañana."
Now they say:
"Los niños y las niñas de hoy son los padres y madres del futuro, los y las visionarios y visionarias constructores y constructoras del mañana".

But there are people that is trying to reduce that, using the @ as a non-gender letter, like this:
"L@s niñ@s de hoy son l@s @adres del futuro, y l@s visionari@s constructor@s del mañana"

Can you believe it?

By the way, there is also people trying to get the spanish "ñ" to be recognized as a legal character for web URLs

W.

wmartinez wrote: Talking about Spanish, they are too having some controversial discussions, since many words are gender specific, and now the equality between men and women is the fashion, instead of saying:
"Los niños de hoy son los padres del futuro, los visionarios constructores del mañana."
Now they say:
"Los niños y las niñas de hoy son los padres y madres del futuro, los y las visionarios y visionarias constructores y constructoras del mañana".

But there are people that is trying to reduce that, using the @ as a non-gender letter, like this:
"L@s niñ@s de hoy son l@s @adres del futuro, y l@s visionari@s constructor@s del mañana"

Can you believe it?

By the way, there is also people trying to get the spanish "ñ" to be recognized as a legal character for web URLs

W.

the issue with the "@" sounds strange somehow (although if @ would be a thing between O and A; @ is a nontraditional letter)

the thing with the "ñ" makes sesne

I can't stand it when "@" is used as a substitute for "a" to be "modern", I've even talked to a teacher on a school with that kind of spelling in the schools' name! It's pronounced "at" not "a" so that creates very weird words.

And are the Scandinavian countries also lobbying for their special characters in domain names? Hagen Daz would be happy (which is a US company btw).

Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com

nobudget wrote:And are the Scandinavian countries also lobbying for their special characters in domain names?

You can register .se-domains (sweden) with the special characters åäö in them...
I haven't seen such a domain in use though.

rylleman wrote:

nobudget wrote:And are the Scandinavian countries also lobbying for their special characters in domain names?

You can register .se-domains (sweden) with the special characters åäö in them...
I haven't seen such a domain in use though.

really interesting, didnt know this one...

mr. blaaa wrote: really interesting, didnt know this one...

Here's some info to back my statement.

ok...
now i remember, they started a big campaign in germany about 1 year ago, so domains with "ä", "ö", "ü" and "ß" r available.

and after some tries i found a popular domain with "ö"

"www.örtliche.de" but i somehow dont get it to work with BBCode...


now i believe everithing on this task

BTW:
The ERT (European Roundtable of Industrialists: Bayer, Bertelsmann, British Petroleum, Daimler Chrysler, E.ON, Ericsson, Fiat, General Electric, Hoffmann-La Roche, Lufthansa, Nestlé, Nokia, Petro Fina, Philips, Pirelli, Renault, Shell, Siemens, Telekom, Total and VW)
forced forwards a socalled "Lissabon-Strategy" in 2000 which includes to make Europe one of the worlds most dynamical powerful and competitionable markets in the world till 2010.

In germany we got formulated an "Agenda 2010" which also includes those plans to homogenize the european markets till 2010.

Also the expansion in the eastern european countries has been pushed by this lobby, because they expect 150 Mio. Men and Women to buy their goods.

Wim Philippa, ERT Secretary-General:
„It is a process of breeding, in Colaboration with the national governments in which we lead, train and push them to join the European Union.“

Siemens-Chef Heinrich von Pierer 1995:
„The wages in the CSFR are 5 to 10 percent of the wages in germany.
The people are well educated and there is a grown culture of industry. We must maximize the Production and increase its quality to our level, then we have an almost invulnerable position of competition there. For the world market.“


The Ideas of the ERT Lobby are now pushed through in all countries of the EU, so that almost all systems of education, taxes, emploayment and social care see their mission of being in patronizing marketability.



Maybe we see us BEFORE 2015

To be honest, you've all taken this way too far.