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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:22 pm
by jahnocli
My vote goes for the default to be "off".

J

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:25 pm
by ulrik
I think "off" would be default setting.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:24 pm
by mr. blaaa
LOSTMARBLE this really is a damn good piece of work!
I appreciate this.
The rendering quality always was a "hot spot" but now it seems you *perfectly* improved this!

Much respect for this! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (very special moment in my "moho life")

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:08 pm
by Rai López
Uf... After I've tried uncheck it I must to take out this again --> :mrgreen: ...Definitely I LOVE "Off" and I think (well, maybe I must try it more, but well...) never, or very few times at least, will miss "On" :) ...Anyway the Preferences Option is the best way to content all of us and with it, the final decision, if default or not, doesn't worry too much :roll: (I'm TOO MUCH happy to something worry to me now... :D)

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:25 pm
by jordanek
I would prefer to have gap filling OFF by default. I'm much more likely to have small shapes that need crisp rendering than I am to have two shapes placed edge to edge.

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:47 pm
by Toontoonz
I will be posting some before and after renders on Friday or this weekend when I have more time.

Anybody else have any before and afters to show????

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:21 pm
by Squeakydave
Well. I tried the file Lostmoho sent me and YES it does render as well as Flash.
I am very happy but I would vote to have gap filling off as default as I don't think I have ever designed anything that has two shapes right up next to each other and as with Jordanek I am really rather likely to have lots of small shapes. (Especially with camera moves)

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:27 pm
by mr. blaaa
Concerning this: my votes for "gap filling" to be off by default.
Forgot to mention this in my last post.

Cheers

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:29 pm
by Toontoonz
First test of Adobe Illustrator file into Moho.
Imported image, then made duplicates and resized within frame, then rendered at 640 x 480 pixels. (cropped away excess white space for image here):

Image
click on image for larger view.

Note eyes - As image gets smaller, black pupil gets bigger or white space in eye ball gets smaller.
Also green thing on top of head seems to fill in as it gets smaller.

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These changes have nothing to do with improving the importing of files from Illustrator to Moho, correct?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:36 pm
by Toontoonz
Here is another view with renders from
640 x 480
320 x 240
160 x 120
all in one shot:

Image
click to see larger view.

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:42 pm
by Rai López
ToonToonz! The KING of the tests!!! HI! :D Only a question... Are pupils and green thing shapes? In this case, if checked, you'd must cosider uncheck Gap Filling in the Vector tab options and you'll see... :)

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:03 pm
by Toontoonz
Ramon - glad you are checking these things out.

Here is a comparison between No Gap filling and Gap filling at 640 x 480 and 320 x 240.

640 x 480
Image
click to see larger view

320 x 240
Image
click to see larger view

See any difference between the gap filling and no gap filling?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:20 pm
by Rai López
...I've been checking it too and I've could see a GREAT improvement in fill renders unchecking Gap Filling, more detailed forms and even the fill can be so thin that it can DISAPPEAR! :D (never before was possible) About your image... is difficult to say to me cause the "pastel" (or low contrast) colors and the write background (a secret: I'm a little color blind person :(), but I can see differences specially in the most small figure, in the ribbon, green head thing and eyes... 8) BYE!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:32 pm
by mr. blaaa
Well, thanks toontoonz for your test images.

I personally prefer the pictures without gap filling, they somehow look a bit more "natural".
I don't know how to express this correctly but i think it is a better linework without gap filling.

And i can't wait for the next moho update :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:40 pm
by Rai López
mr. blaaa wrote:And i can't wait for the next moho update :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
...YES! Specially I'm very intrigated about how brushes will be reder, the low quality brush render issue is one of the reasons for I never can use it although I want do it and, if finally it works so fine like normal line works in this RT version I'll be, ahhh... SO happy... :roll: