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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 pm
by Mikdog
Thanks! That gave me a boost! ;)

Another test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVSL3ylWa8

Nice. Well, thanks. Guess I'm more comfortable now with moving on to the other scenes.

As a side, if you export a raster layer from Photoshop into AS and the photoshop's layer is at say, 50% opacity in photoshop, the .PNG layer in AS will still have the same 50% opacity, but it will read 100% opacity for the layer. If that makes sense. What I'm saying is that I exported a 50% opacity layer from photoshop then couldn't get it back to 100% opacity in AS because it was already at 100% opacity in AS.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:41 pm
by jahnocli
Mikdog wrote:What I'm saying is that I exported a 50% opacity layer from photoshop then couldn't get it back to 100% opacity in AS because it was already at 100% opacity in AS
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Great tip -- thank you!

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:51 pm
by slowtiger
hm ... hm ... I liked the version before better. Think of the whole thing: you will need some way to boost and exaggerate later in the track, so why waste your extremes right at the start? Build slowly.

(There's a voice track on some DJ Shadow album where he's asked "Why are your faders not on 100%" and he explains "You don't start at 100% because maybe later you'll get a track which is very silent, so what will you do then?" - "Aaaah - I see ...")

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:08 pm
by Mikdog
Okay, maybe...I think you may be right.

I'm going to go for a cycle and clear my head a bit.

Just out of interest a line-test for the next little bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZdeF7jz90o

Still lots to do. Don't know if I'd be better using ToonBoom for something like this, but AS seems pretty capable at the moment, thanks to its switch layers. Man, gotta love those switch layers. Also I use the scale layer tool quite a bit holding down ALT, which scales in proportion. Only remembered that when I read it on these forums a while ago, I think from a post from you slow.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:19 pm
by funksmaname
i ahve to agree with slowtiger... i liked the rattly eyes from before rather than the painful looking popping eyes :)

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:03 pm
by Mikdog
Hmm. Funny how I can think something's so cool then later it looks wrong. That's why I enjoy this forum so much.

Put it up again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsQZpYx2CLw

Kind of labouring the point here, but I reckon if I can just nail one or two shots in the beginning, then I'll have a good idea of what to do for the rest of the vid.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:19 pm
by slowtiger
I like it sooo much!

Hm. About continuity: fish grabs phones and makes an "o" mouth. Next shot should start with that "o" for one beat, then switch to grin. Don't waste a change in expression in a cut - do the cut first, the change of expression a bit later.

I think when you're finished with everything you could add two seconds of silence in the beginning, an establishing shot showing the fishbowl on a table, so the audience knows where it is.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:21 pm
by spoooze!
WOW. Dude... this stuff is looking awesome. It has a very hand-drawn look to it. Can't wait to see the full video :D

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:19 am
by funksmaname
glad you put the other eyes back with teh funky backgrounds :) lookin' good.

I think the "O" should change to a smile the last beat before the cut, rather than after the cut... also after the cut, the mouth could be more open and goofy? just a thought... you know, maybe with a tongue hanging out that shchlops to the beat as well hehe.

i agree with the establishing shot when you're done... that would look good... could you put the track title over that too...?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:07 am
by Mikdog
hmm...

I originally planned to change his o into a smile before the cut. I think I might still do that, one beat before the cut he changes into a grin.

Thanks.

Update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLs0qKvw2gU

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:20 am
by DK
DAMN!!! I LOVE IT!!! Well done Mikdog.....I can't wait to see the whole thing.

:)

Cheers
D.K

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:58 am
by funksmaname
lmao! nice backward step :)
now i'm thinking you could change the expression of the mouth on every beat in that section... would look funny...

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:19 pm
by slowtiger
*bows* You are the master. This is premium stuff.

The desk maybe is too empty, perhaps add some small stuff in the background, just to indicate how the fish is moving.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:30 pm
by DK
One more question....please what's the name of the song?

D.K

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:07 pm
by chucky
Nice moves Mikdog, that fish is really steppin' out.