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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:41 pm
by red hamster
I hope that NOBODY shared you the link , before I dubbed it in english!
I had to heavy modify my movie for render it suitable to the forum taste.
Ps "red" is referred to my hamsterian hairy (looks the avatar).
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:40 pm
by red hamster
Say "hello " to Pagan Havocco ,who help us to make "hero man "suitable for a family audiance.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:27 pm
by cribble
ah wow, he has PG rated Muscles.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:43 pm
by red hamster
Say "hello" also to pagan Arkan, he and Havocco will made the movie suitable also for a family audience.
Arkan and Havocco do exist in the real life also
I am rebuilding the whole damn thing

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:55 pm
by cribble
DON'T CHANGE IT
Keep the animation as it is, it looks rather interesting. Plus, you'll get noticed for your extreme controversy.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:11 pm
by red hamster
Controversy is a bad marketing, the last resource for failed artists.
A little buzz is fine but only a little bit.
I am covering all the scenes with the boobs and change the dialogues in a family oriented sense.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:50 pm
by Bones3D
red hamster wrote:Controversy is a bad marketing, the last resource for failed artists.
A little buzz is fine but only a little bit.
I am covering all the scenes with the boobs and change the dialogues in a family oriented sense.
Depends on the target audience.
Personally, I'm in the "don't change it" camp. Once someone begins compromising their own interests to please others, can what they end up producing really be considered "art"?
So, what will become of your original once this edited version is completed? Will you just toss it or try to revive it? And if you do revive it, would you go so far as to get an alternate set of voice actors for it, or would you simply borrow the soundtrack of the edited version at the risk of your original voice actors finding out?
Unless you really enjoy making all these changes to your personal vision for the sake of others, then why bother doing it at all? You'd only be robbing yourself of your integrity and self-respect. Is it really worth it to get good "marketing"?
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:27 am
by heyvern
The key is to stay true to yourself.
You can be controversial. It isn't bad. It is only bad if you feel bad when others don't like it. You need to have a very thick skin to be an artist. Unfortunately artists tend to be sensitive and moody.
There was absolutely no creative endeavor in history that didn't offend someone somewhere.
I am sure there was some cave painter who got slugged on the head for something he drew on the wall. Back then it was bad. We didn't have laws to protect free speech and all that. But those cave painters kept at it.
-vern
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:41 am
by red hamster
The original version , dubbed in italian, is still available ( with boobs inside).
My fellow italians did appreciate it.
I may do a censored (almost) family oriented version (in english ) and a uncut version (in english).
I think that people will not dissapointed , at all.
My main concern is that , while the software for the syintetich voice in italian (eloquens) is a little bit costumizable and the voice , still robotic , sounds fun and with a little expression; the microsoft sam voices are too flat and unpleasent to hear.
Is it really worth it to get good "marketing"?
Segmentation? Believe me, while I flamed in order to defend my prior works (in other forums) still I think that a little adjustament for different values and sensibilities , is not a bad thing.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:38 pm
by Bones3D
red hamster wrote:Segmentation? Believe me, while I flamed in order to defend my prior works (in other forums) still I think that a little adjustament for different values and sensibilities , is not a bad thing.
The point I was trying to make is that these kind of changes could unintentionally distort the message you are trying to convey to the audience.
While the original does raise a few eyebrows with some viewers, your intended vision was still preserved. But if you change things to the point that you no long get this kind of reaction from your audience, will your message still be recognized as intended?
The idea "good" or "bad" marketing is irrelevant if your audience ends up walking away with an interpretation of your work that is completely different from what you had originally envisioned.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:18 pm
by red hamster
Well, don't worry: I have not intention of watered down my movie too much ,unless 2 different version does mean double funny .
I spent near 5 friggin months to finish him, after all.
Trust me..and just wait.