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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:25 am
by chucky
I second that, bioroid, good to hear your thoughts.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:10 pm
by fraaaankieee
I've been using ASP for about 8 months. I've used the trial version of TB DP, and the one feature I like is the drawing tools, but the problem is this- It's not worth $2.5k. Now for students, there's a version for about $600 (does anyone know if there's any difference in the versions besides a student discount?)

So help me out: from following the forum, I gather that Adobe Illustrator will allow me to draw vector images which I can import into AS Pro. Is this so? It would make my frame -by-frame sequences much easier, I think.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:25 pm
by slowtiger
Importing from Illustrator is possible, but not really recommended since often you need a lot of cleanup in AS. It's much faster to draw directly in AS, this also prevents you from drawing something which would be hard to animate.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:39 pm
by fraaaankieee
slowtiger wrote:Importing from Illustrator is possible, but not really recommended since often you need a lot of cleanup in AS. It's much faster to draw directly in AS, this also prevents you from drawing something which would be hard to animate.
Thanks for that! I have been able to make do with the AS tools for frame-by-frame (sometimes that's the only way to make the scene look like I want).

Of course, I've had success in sketching in Photoshop elements and then loading those images into AS for the "inking" process.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:42 pm
by mkelley
Make sure you give the AS drawing tools a real chance. I was an Illustrator Maven for years and resistant to using AS for drawing until Vern here convinced me to try again. After a couple of weeks I was hooked -- now I like it *better* than Illustrator.

Also, there are free replacement drawing tools for the default ones that you might want to try -- Facek (sp?) wrote some that people here say they would not do without (I keep meaning to try them one of these days :>)

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:42 pm
by fraaaankieee
Thanks, mkelly. I found the drawing tools you were talking about. I especially like the freehand tool and the magnet. It looks like just what I needed.

The freehand drawing was the most disappointing feature in AS, but Fazek fixed it.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:03 pm
by jahnocli
Wow, that is the biggest footer I've ever seen! Or is it an icon? (In which case, it is simply monstrous!)

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:45 pm
by synthsin75
I'd have to agree. Frankie, could you please use a smaller avatar? Yours is crowding out the text of the posts.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:54 pm
by madrobot
I'll try it out of course, but out of interest;

What's different about Fazek's freehand drawing tool?

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:22 pm
by fraaaankieee
synthsin75 wrote:I'd have to agree. Frankie, could you please use a smaller avatar? Yours is crowding out the text of the posts.
sorry about that- I linked it to a URL where I had some art posted. I think I'm good artist, but my computer skills are awful. I'm sure I can get along fine without an avatar- I'm too lazy to resize.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:29 pm
by synthsin75
Thanks Frankie!

Madrobot, I don't think there is a big difference with Fazek's freehand tool, but I don't really use them anyway.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:11 pm
by fraaaankieee
The differences are very minor, but they do make some tasks easier. For example, his magnet tool will only affect points you have selected. This makes it easier to adjust a group of points when making inbetweens. without it, I had to drag an object out of the drawing area, and so, the onion skin was useless.

The freehand drawing tool just feels more natural for some reason. I think it responds better to short strokes with the stylus on my Wacom tablet. but it makes my sketching easier- the AS standard add point works better for the inking process, I think.

Those two have been the most useful so far.