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Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:12 pm
by Karl Toon
Daxel wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:43 pm
Mad Dog wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:46 pm Just thought I'd add to this Frequent Crashing post as I too am having at least 1 or 2 per hour. The most recent was when I created a switch layer, and prior to that was when I imported a jpg image. There seems to be no real rhyme nor reason to it. It's really annoying though. I'm on Windows 11, just so you Mac people don't think you are getting all the fun. Problem since install of 13.5.2; was quite stable prior to that.
Do you work with your style panel undocked?
No, I don't

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:55 pm
by Greenlaw
Yeah, for now you should undock the Style window. A related bug was discovered that made Moho unstable when this window is docked, and my understanding is that the the next update should have a fix for it.

FWIW, I've always work with Style window undocked for maximum vertical space in the Layers Window...I think this is a better use of the Layers window, and it's easy enough to open and close the Style window when I need it. (Use Ctrl-] or click the Style button in the MQC window.)

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:15 am
by Daxel
Mad Dog wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:12 pm
No, I don't

Try undocking it. As Greenlaw explained, it solves a lot of crashes. Officially confirmed.

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:02 pm
by aeiourb
Hello Everyone,
Keeping the Style Window undocked, actually solved frequent crashes.
Thank You

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:58 am
by CandyCoated
Wow. I'll have to try this. I've been having semi-frequent crashes.

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:32 pm
by Karl Toon
Daxel wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:15 am
Mad Dog wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:12 pm
No, I don't

Try undocking it. As Greenlaw explained, it solves a lot of crashes. Officially confirmed.
Have done this and am looking forward to seeing results. Thank you. :D

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:16 am
by davoodice2
I see lots of crashes when working in layers pallet. The reason is one of the scripts I installed.

update: scripts was not reason of crash.I dont know reason of that. simply group with selection and BOOM. I open it in moho 13 there is no problem.also 13.5.1 is fine

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:05 am
by Daxel
davoodice2 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:16 ama
I see lots of crashes when working in layers pallet. The reason is one of the scripts I installed.

update: scripts was not reason of crash.I dont know reason of that. simply group with selection and BOOM. I open it in moho 13 there is no problem.also 13.5.1 is fine
you get a crash every time you group with selection on any project? Having style panel undocked?

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:32 am
by davoodice2
Daxel wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:05 am
davoodice2 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:16 ama
I see lots of crashes when working in layers pallet. The reason is one of the scripts I installed.

update: scripts was not reason of crash.I dont know reason of that. simply group with selection and BOOM. I open it in moho 13 there is no problem.also 13.5.1 is fine
you get a crash every time you group with selection on any project? Having style panel undocked?
No style panel is docked. I dont know what is problem. I use moho 13.5.1 for now.

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:53 pm
by synthsin75
davoodice2 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:32 am
Daxel wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:05 am you get a crash every time you group with selection on any project? Having style panel undocked?
No style panel is docked. I dont know what is problem. I use moho 13.5.1 for now.
He's saying to try undocking the style window. That stops a lot of crashes for many people.

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:14 pm
by rikberryere
Been away attending to real world stuff (sigh) and am back at the animation stuff. (Shhh...my wife things I'm being responsible and productive!)

Program crashed twice in half an hour - so consulted the forum thread... and noticed the 'undocking the styles' suggestion. I noticed that I still had that window docked - curious, as I've undocked everything else! Wonder why I never did that one. Anyway, we'll see what happens.

Other than this issue, I'm absolutely loving this program.

Append - That seems to work! Done a ton of modifications to a character doing all the stuff that would inevitably trigger a crash, and... nothing. Thanks for the info, guys - a round of butter tarts for everyone in the room, waiter!

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:28 pm
by davoodice2
synthsin75 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:53 pm
davoodice2 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:32 am
Daxel wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:05 am you get a crash every time you group with selection on any project? Having style panel undocked?
No style panel is docked. I dont know what is problem. I use moho 13.5.1 for now.
He's saying to try undocking the style window. That stops a lot of crashes for many people.
wonderful ! it works! :shock: thanks

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:46 pm
by Greenlaw
davoodice2 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:32 am No style panel is docked. I dont know what is problem. I use moho 13.5.1 for now.
The error also exists in 13.5.1; version 13.5.2 is apparently just more sensitive to the error. An update that fixes this issue is coming but you can prevent the crash now by undocking the Style Window.

Mike explains what's going on in this post and in his follow up post: https://lostmarble.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 62#p203062

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:36 am
by Mattyj
I have found my version if 13.5.2 has crashed several times for me as well to the point that I do notice it. Am running it on a surface pro 7 with 16gb RAM and an i7. I thought perhaps it may be from performing too many actions quickly, but I am certainly a novice at Moho.

Re: Frequent Crashing

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:08 pm
by Daxel
Mattyj wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:36 am I have found my version if 13.5.2 has crashed several times for me as well to the point that I do notice it. Am running it on a surface pro 7 with 16gb RAM and an i7. I thought perhaps it may be from performing too many actions quickly, but I am certainly a novice at Moho.

Have you tried...

*I put my sunglasses on* 8)

...undocking the style panel?

Could we rename the tittle of this post to something like "Frequent Crashing (solved undocking the style panel)"?