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Daxel wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:03 am

KuzKuz wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:56 pm Hello, thank you for the feedback. I have updated the script on the website. Now, when selecting bones, keys should not be created at all. To create keys, click and hold for one second or more. I hope this helps you.

Now that I'm testing it, I see my "click and hold" idea was not very good. It does the job, but the experience is not as good as your double click to reset, because holding is slower, the user don't have a visual confirmation of the freeze (and the bone doesn't move like when it's reset) and the keyframe is not added until the user stops holding so it leads to holding more than neccesary to be sure and looking to the timeline to check if the keyframe was actually added. Not as good experience as the double click, especially when doing this for a few bones. I hope I or someone will have a better idea.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to make keys before OnMouseUp() because calling OnMouseMoved() requires changing the cursor position, and if this is done after a click, the tool will switch to transform mode instead of selection mode.

Daxel wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:03 am Also "keep selection" is being broken by holding to freeze.

You can hold Shift to create keys for multiple selected bones, but I will consider making it work without Shift as well.

Daxel wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:03 am While "keep selection" is not broken by "double click to reset", it resets every selected bone even if "Multi Transform" is disabled, which is unexpected.

It was initially intended that "double click to reset" work for all selected bones, but I will consider tying this to the "Multi Transform" option.

Daxel wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:03 am Other problems I have found is that the bones are still freezed sometimes by a normal click, both in selection and in transform mode.

I can't reproduce the situation where selecting bones creates keys.
Keys can be created if you start moving the cursor after clicking on a bone, but this already works as a transformation, not a selection.
If you can reproduce the problem where keys are created when selecting bones, please record a video demonstration and instructions on how to reproduce it.

Version 2.1.2
Now, double-clicking on a bone creates keys, while click and hold resets.

KuzKuz wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:48 am I can't reproduce the situation where selecting bones creates keys.
Keys can be created if you start moving the cursor after clicking on a bone, but this already works as a transformation, not a selection.
If you can reproduce the problem where keys are created when selecting bones, please record a video demonstration and instructions on how to reproduce it.

Yes, this is what I see. I'm being extra careful to not move the mouse at all. Sometimes I have to click 10 times or so to see the key creation, I think that's what happened when you tried to reproduce it. It's very random.

After the video, I wondered if I could be activating the reset double click clicking too fast so I moved the bones to check if those keys were resetting the bones but no. I also tried Keep Selection on/off, Lock Handles on/off, and double click to reset on/off with the same results.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiyKCw6Xey5Tgp9NFBX ... A?e=YGh2eI

Edit: I just read the change aboout double click to create key and hold to reset. I think that's better.

I just tried the new version quickly and the change feels perfect! Thank you.

Daxel wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 6:08 pm

KuzKuz wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:48 am I can't reproduce the situation where selecting bones creates keys.
Keys can be created if you start moving the cursor after clicking on a bone, but this already works as a transformation, not a selection.
If you can reproduce the problem where keys are created when selecting bones, please record a video demonstration and instructions on how to reproduce it.

Yes, this is what I see. I'm being extra careful to not move the mouse at all. Sometimes I have to click 10 times or so to see the key creation, I think that's what happened when you tried to reproduce it. It's very random.

After the video, I wondered if I could be activating the reset double click clicking too fast so I moved the bones to check if those keys were resetting the bones but no. I also tried Keep Selection on/off, Lock Handles on/off, and double click to reset on/off with the same results.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiyKCw6Xey5Tgp9NFBX ... A?e=YGh2eI

Edit: I just read the change aboout double click to create key and hold to reset. I think that's better.

What are those scripts you have below the MR tween machine and the MR transform Rig tool respectively?

lucasfranca wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 9:15 pm
What are those scripts you have below the MR tween machine and the MR transform Rig tool respectively?

They are Toggle Parent Bone (Root) and Update Reference Layer, both by SimpleSam.

https://lostmarble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34513

https://mohoscripts.com/script/ss_ref_layer_update

Version 2.1.4
Fixed several bugs.

Cool! Thanks, Eugene! Downloading now and will check it out later today.

Version 2.1.5
Thank you! The recent changes in the tool have introduced a few bugs. I hope I managed to fix them in this version.
Also, the script now supports the global option Auto-Freeze Keys.

amazing,thanks

MR Pose Tool 3.0

1. The Inverse Kinematic Bones.
2. New Bone Stretching option for Follow Bones and IK Bones that can be assigned separately to different bone chains.
3. Reverse IK Direction button for flipping elbows and knees.
4. All settings for the IK Bones, Follow Bones, and Lock Bones are now stored on the character itself, so it works as part of the rig.
5. The IK Bones, Follow Bones, and Lock Bones can be turned on or off at any moment using the quick menu or by double-clicking outside the bones. Each type of bone can be disabled individually.
6. MR Tween Machine 2.4 supports MR Pose Tool 3 and can use IK Bones, Follow Bones, and Lock Bones.
7. The Set Single Follow Bones button allows you to set them without grouping them into chains.
8. The Single Bone Mode provides an ability to turn on and off the Follow Bones chains without constant re-adjustments.
Please note that when this option is turned on some menu buttons will be disabled. Don't forget to turn it off if you need those buttons.
9. The tool panel now has buttons to reset bones to their default values. Also, the panel can be expanded to provide access to the text fields for the position, angle, and scale of the bones.
10. Holding Alt + Shift allows you to move bones without clicking on their handles.
11. Added an algorithm to verify if all of the tool’s files are available. If the script is installed incorrectly it will let you know what files are missing and what needs to be done to fix it.
12. Added the Info button, which allows you to quickly see the list of all shortcuts of the tool.



Download link - https://mohoscripts.com/script/mr_pose_tool

Hi, thank you for the latest update. I have tried it, and found some errors. While working with the tool, I feel like the popup menu (when click on control) seems to be slower to appear than the previous version. Sometimes when click and hold Ct, the menu won't popup until I move my mouse a little bit. Plus, clearing section (when hold ctrl sometimes works and sometimes not), and so does the "clear all" when holding ctrl+Alt. When trying to clear those section, I could use the tool again, some of the the popup menu buttons (when holding ctrl, and ctrl+Alt) become faded and couldn't select them any more until I close Moho and restart the program again. Thank you.

Panha wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:47 am Hi, thank you for the latest update. I have tried it, and found some errors. While working with the tool, I feel like the popup menu (when click on control) seems to be slower to appear than the previous version. Sometimes when click and hold Ct, the menu won't popup until I move my mouse a little bit.

Hi. After pressing Ctrl to call up the menu, you need to move the cursor. Yes, that's how it works, and it can't be done differently.
Unfortunately, the OnKeyDown event does not track pressing just the Ctrl modifier without another non-modifier key.
The previous version couldn't call up the menu faster, so unfortunately, that's not possible.
I have made a feature request for OnKeyDown to be able to track only modifiers, but that depends on others.

Panha wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:47 am Plus, clearing section (when hold ctrl sometimes works and sometimes not), and so does the "clear all" when holding ctrl+Alt.

I can't reproduce the situation where the Clear buttons don't work, can you make a video demonstration?

Panha wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:47 am When trying to clear those section, I could use the tool again, some of the the popup menu buttons (when holding ctrl, and ctrl+Alt) become faded and couldn't select them any more until I close Moho and restart the program again. Thank you.

If part of the menu becomes inactive, it's likely you have enabled the Single Bone Mode option. I talked about this in the video. If your menu becomes inactive with the Single Bone Mode option turned off, please record it on video and try to provide steps to reproduce it.

KuzKuz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:49 am If part of the menu becomes inactive, it's likely you have enabled the Single Bone Mode option. I talked about this in the video. If your menu becomes inactive with the Single Bone Mode option turned off, please record it on video and try to provide steps to reproduce it.

I may have missed something then, I'll watch the video and again and try it again. Thank you very much.

Version 3.0 looks AWESOME, Eugene.

I'm embarrassed to say I'm not using MR Pose Tool nearly enough, but I have it installed in 14.2 and I'll definitely use it on my next animation project.

Thanks for continuing the improvements!