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I went to the Lost Marble website to get some info on Moho for someone and I clicked on the link to the "About Moho" page and it quit my broswser (I'm using Firefox)! I went again and it quit again. I went a third time and opened the link in a new window then clicked on another link in the same window and once again it quit my browser Also, whenever I close out of the Lost Marble main page my browser quits. It's really wierd...

I have suspicions it's the Nick Jr. thing that is messing up my browser...

Please help!

Spoooze

I'm using Firefox here and it seems to work fine. Which version of Firefox do you have? And which version of Flash?

Even if this website is crashing your browser, it sounds like a browser ug to me - you may want to report it to the FireFox folks.

Thanks.
I'll try and report it to Firefox.
Spoooze

Just for information - no problems with Firefox 1.0.5 here.

Regards, Myles.

Ditto. Did have some wierd bits from 1.0.4(including dome random shutdowns and one or 2 phantom reboots), but I guess that's why they came out with the next so quick.

I think it crashed Safari on my Mac. I was trying to view the Nick Jr. thing a second time, and since there was no "play again" button I thought I'd reload the page. That was when it crashed.

MarkBorok wrote:I think it crashed Safari on my Mac. I was trying to view the Nick Jr. thing a second time, and since there was no "play again" button I thought I'd reload the page. That was when it crashed.

MACS RULE! Bill Gates is a terrorist!!

Yeah, I have a Mac and I tried it on Safari and that crashed too. Must be a Mac thing...

Spoooze

[on OSX, of course ... Panther, in fact]

I found that any attempt to leave your home page would crash my browsers. I suspect it has something to do with that Flash movie [which I was enjoying, but I had work to do, and needed to move past it to your downloads and purchase pages]. If I bookmarked a link, rather than clicking it, I could go directly to that link, so I was able to get to the downloads page. If I did anything to take my browser FROM your homepage, it crashed, repeatably. I filed bug reports with each browser team, but it's probably not the browser makers' problem to fix.

BTW, it'd be courteous of you to export that Flash movie so that we are allowed to stop playback, or rewind it. Perhaps that might have made a difference with today's bug [or maybe not], but I noticed the Flash context menu offered no way to stop playback, so I couldn't test that for you.

[edit: added browser version info]
Firefox 1.0.6
Safari 1.3 (v312)

mooncaine wrote:I filed bug reports with each browser team, but it's probably not the browser makers' problem to fix.

It absolutely is the browser maker's bug to fix. No website should be able to crash a web browser, intentionally or otherwise. If you can create a web page that crashes a web browser, that's a flaw in the browser. Theoretically, it should be impossible to crash a web browser. Until that is true, the browser makers have bugs to fix.

In this case, it may be the Flash plugin that's crashing, not the browser itself, but the result is the same.

That said, in practice, we have no desire to make our site visitors' browsers crash. So, it will probably be best to try to change things on our side. Still, a crashing browser is a bug in the browser.

Lost Marble wrote:In this case, it may be the Flash plugin that's crashing, not the browser itself, but the result is the same.

Yep, that seemed to be the problem - I think it should be fixed now. So, in this case I guess the blame is on Flash crashing. Still, Macromedia should make it virtually impossible to crash the Flash player (and hence the browser), so I would say the actual bug is in Flash. (It extremely easy to crash Flash by the way).

I understand what you mean, and I agree that one shouldn't be able to make a web page that crashes the browser. I guess what I meant to convey was the idea that you, Lost Marble, probably wouldn't want to tell users that their browser vendors have to fix the problem, because it was within your power to prevent the crash [by changing or removing the Flash movie] -- not that it was your fault. I wrote in haste; please pardon my error.

I quite liked the movie -- what I saw of it.

BTW, I'm a customer who's really enjoying your product -- keep up the great work.

Okay LM, the site works fine now I finially got to see the whole Nick Jr. thing. Glad to see that the program is being used for stuff like that! Hopefully they'll start doing half hour shows now in Moho. That would be cool

Spoooze