So this is my first every quadraped/ insect/ ant walk/ forward walk ever so I definitely need some help out. After I rendered it, I noticed he had some goofy head and arm movements, but ignore all that
What I need help with is the walk. I have no clue what an ant is suppose to walk like, but also because he is not using all 6 of his legs/arms I really don't know how to make a convincing four legged two armed ant walk....
Here is what I got so far
Let me know what you think!
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:03 pm
by jahnocli
Hmmm. If you think about it, the ant would find it very difficult to walk like this. It's more productive to think "how many legs does the ant need to be stable?", and the answer is 3. So for each stage of the ant's walk, he would move just one leg forward. Then he'd stand on three different legs and move another leg forward. And so on...
(Actually, I think cockroaches can run on four legs using this technique).
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:46 pm
by willf
Pretty good so far, I like the blink.
You may want to put a red body segment between each set of legs.
The feet need to grip the ground more. The trailing edge might need to come inward a bit, or you might shift the feet & bones to a more oblique angle.
And just in case it might help, here's Richard Williams on how to animate a spider walking:
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:05 am
by mtbuck24
jahnocli wrote:Hmmm. If you think about it, the ant would find it very difficult to walk like this. It's more productive to think "how many legs does the ant need to be stable?", and the answer is 3. So for each stage of the ant's walk, he would move just one leg forward. Then he'd stand on three different legs and move another leg forward. And so on...
(Actually, I think cockroaches can run on four legs using this technique).
Awesome! Thank you for that! Definitely good advice I knew something was really off
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:10 am
by mtbuck24
willf wrote:Pretty good so far, I like the blink.
You may want to put a red body segment between each set of legs.
The feet need to grip the ground more. The trailing edge might need to come inward a bit, or you might shift the feet & bones to a more oblique angle.
Awesome! Thank you willf! Quick question, what do you mean by the trailing edge?
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:52 pm
by willf
Sorry, I just meant that the toe usually trails after the rest of the foot. If the heel strikes the ground first, the toe curls down and grabs the ground, and that the feet seem to be turned sideways, but that might be the look you are going for.
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:32 am
by mtbuck24
willf wrote:Sorry, I just meant that the toe usually trails after the rest of the foot. If the heel strikes the ground first, the toe curls down and grabs the ground, and that the feet seem to be turned sideways, but that might be the look you are going for.
Okay yeah I see what you mean now! Haha yeah its still a work in progress. Thanks for the help I'm definitely going to fix that!
Thank you!
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:57 pm
by Danimal
He sure is happy!
His legs should move more quickly. At the rate he's walking, it would take him 25 years to get across a room. Ants tend to "scurry" more. Actually, the spider video above shows the quicker movement well, though it makes me feel itchy after watching it, haha.
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:41 pm
by mtbuck24
Danimal wrote:He sure is happy!
His legs should move more quickly. At the rate he's walking, it would take him 25 years to get across a room. Ants tend to "scurry" more. Actually, the spider video above shows the quicker movement well, though it makes me feel itchy after watching it, haha.
Thanks Danimal!
Yeah once I do the final render he will be doing more than scurrying...
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:43 am
by Little Yamori
I don't think anything could have topped that spider walk tutorial to show how an insect (or arachnid) should be animated to walk. And since mtbuck is going for a character ant, the walk is obviously going to be more anthropomorphic, but in any event, I finished an ant walk for my latest work, I don't know if it'll help, and moreover it's on my company fb page, so I'm not sure if it'll link all that well. But here's the link
Little Yamori wrote:I don't think anything could have topped that spider walk tutorial to show how an insect (or arachnid) should be animated to walk. And since mtbuck is going for a character ant, the walk is obviously going to be more anthropomorphic, but in any event, I finished an ant walk for my latest work, I don't know if it'll help, and moreover it's on my company fb page, so I'm not sure if it'll link all that well. But here's the link
Cool! I like it! Thanks Little Yamori!
Re: Ant Walk. Constructive Criticism needed
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:55 am
by Little Yamori
Have no idea why someone on a different Gecko facebook page posted this, but of all things it was a video animation of how an ant walks. Go figure