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Bare essentials Mouth Shapes???
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:21 am
by ThatsNotAllFolks
I have never animated speech/dialogue. Is there a consensus among animators who use switch layers for mouth shapes of what the bare minimum you should have? I am making a retro type character with a limited animation look and I don't want or need an elaborate collection of mouth shapes. I did a search and didn't find what I was looking for. It seems like I saw a list somewhere where the "rest position" was used for some phonemes along with a few other poses. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: Bare essentials Mouth Shapes???
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:41 am
by jahnocli
Well, I think the absolute minimum (seen on some very cheap anime etc) is "open" and "closed". A good compromise is seven phonemes -- see
Cartoon Solutions. That should be enough for retro-style stuff...
If you're going to be doing a lot of this, try learning Papagayo.
Re: Bare essentials Mouth Shapes???
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:23 am
by neeters_guy
Dermot O' Connor describes a system that uses only 6 shapes:
tutorial-3 : dialog
That said, you'd be surprised how convincing lip synch can work with only 2 shapes of open and closed (eg., The Muppets). Plus if you ever want variants of whispering, yelling, happy, angry, sad, etc. it's a lot easier if you have only a few phonemes.
Re: Bare essentials Mouth Shapes???
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:27 am
by braj
I think happy, sad, open, closed, and 'O' are the bare minimum, unless you are a Muppet.
Re: Bare essentials Mouth Shapes???
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:23 pm
by ThatsNotAllFolks
Thankyou for the replies