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Insert Text - any fonts?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:19 am
by box
With Mac OS X, my "insert text"-window looks like this:Image
I read about problems in Font handling with moho, but there should be at least SOME fonts in the list. I have installed lots of fonts, most of them being PostScript, but there are Truetype Fonts as well and some Windows TT Fonts. So, what's wrong here?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:51 am
by Nolan Scott
Well, I am on OSX as well
and Moho can read most of them (about 70%).
These are mostly FFIL / OTF / TTF and DFONT fonts.
Here are some examples:

American Type Writer/Apple Chancery/Arial/Baskerville/
Brush Script/Chalkboard/Cochin/Comic Sans/Courier/Didot/
Futura/Gill Sans/Helvetica/Hoefler/Optima/Papyrus/Plantagenet/
Times/Verdana/Warnock/Webdings/Zapfino.

I store my fonts here: HD/Library/Fonts

Cheers
Nolan

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:19 am
by box
I organize my fonts with Suitcase X. Hence, my library/fonts folder is empty. There are some dfonts in system/library/fonts, though. Maybe moho is not compatible with suitcase?
(Until now there is no other application on the Mac I am aware of which is not compatible with suitcase)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:26 am
by box
Ok, I checked this out. Moho recognizes fonts ONLY when they are physically placed in the library/fonts folder which is just one of six different locations where OS X stores fonts. Most professional designers use Font Organizers like Suitcase. And WHEN you work with Suitcase, it is extremely uncomfortable to fiddle arond with fonts outside of it for the sake of one single application that handles fonts differently.

So, finally said, it is not a bug. It is more the lack of a feature, or the lack of proper platform support.
So, in combination with the quite poor accuracy of font to outline transition, I have a feature request.
-Please include a native font layer, in which fonts are NOT converted to outlines, being still editable inside moho. Support of all major font types, especially post script fonts. Better System integration in OS X.
Thanks a lot.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:26 pm
by jahnocli
-Please include a native font layer, in which fonts are NOT converted to outlines, being still editable inside moho. Support of all major font types, especially post script fonts. Better System integration in OS X.
Ha ha! I'm no developer, but this looks like about a year's work...for something that already works! Good luck...

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:37 pm
by box
Well, I would not call it "something that already works" when my insert text-window is blank although any other application has lots of fonts on their list. And what moho does while converting fonts is a bit like: give your daughter a sheet with printed letters on it and scissors and tell her to cut out the letters as accurate as possible and fix them to another paper...
The disturbing thing with moho that sometimes you can't believe what amazing stuff you can do with it and sometimes you can't believe what simple things you can not do with it.

So, I am no developer as well, I am just a user. And it is just a wish.
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Regarding your signature: oh yes, I want to have everything. Please put it all into my mac. :-)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:51 am
by jahnocli
Well, OK, no slight intended -- but I've been on the receiving end of a couple of innocent-sounding sentences in the past when it comes to development and design! So I thought I'd say something, which is that it does *kinda* work right now...!

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:15 am
by Rasheed
Since Moho puts vectors on the vector layer instead of characters, you might consider to use an application like Illustrator or Freehand to create your text, export to an AI file and import that into Moho.