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Vector lines on TV look too sharp

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:02 am
by Mikdog
Hello,

When I export a clip from Moho as a Quicktime, or an AVI, or a DV clip and view that clip on a TV screen, the lines are way too crisp and aliased. I'm using PAL resolution on a PAL TV screen. Is there any way to soften them slightly and prevent that alias edge from jumping off the TV screen? I've tried blurring the layer, but on '1' it blurs too much.

Thanks

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:45 am
by Rasheed
Can you please show us some photographs of such Moho animation on a tv screen?

Re: Vector lines on TV look too sharp

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:59 am
by Rai López
Mikdog wrote:I've tried blurring the layer, but on '1' it blurs too much.
TRUE! I've always requested a decimal treatament of Layer Effects...

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:52 am
by Mikdog
Okay, I don't have the TV screen with me now, but here's the kind of thing I'm looking at.

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I must just say these characters are under pretty tight copyright, but any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:07 am
by Rai López
I can't see it... :(

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:01 pm
by Rasheed
You could try to tweak the outline color and fill color a bit. I don't have the original Moho file, but I have tweaked the lines and the black fills of your artwork in an image editor and I think the result is more appealing to the eyes. So, this might be part of the solution.
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I hope you didn't mind that I changed your artwork a bit here; I just wanted to let you see what I mean.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:38 pm
by Rasheed
And that black & white can still work, shows this example from Channel Frederator's animation show podcast:
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So, here variation in line width and line style helps to make an image more pleasing to look at.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:21 pm
by Mikdog
Rasheed, nice one buddy! Looks very cool! Thanks!

You got a webpage? Just interested, thanks.

Mike

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:10 pm
by Rasheed
I don't really have an animation website. I'm just a hobbyist with some experience. But that doesn't mean to say that I can't have good ideas now and then.

I'm just glad you found my tip useful.

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:38 pm
by Ant_Gri3d
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VirtualDub filter

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:49 pm
by Lost Marble
Even if Moho did allow fractional blurs, I think you'd still be better off doing this with a video editing/processing program. The reason I say this is that to me, specific tweaks that you need to do for specific video output are better done on a final video file, rather than re-rendering the animation. You may also have to deal with things like interlacing, non-square pixels, color space conversions, etc. I think of all these things as video tasks, not animation tasks.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:14 pm
by Mikdog
Hi LM,

Quite correct, I added a Gaussian Blur in After Effects and whatdayaknow...

Thanks,

You are a genius of epic proportions.

Mike
www.bruandboegie.com - the kiffest comic in the world