Moho Forum

Hey,

its me again!

just wondering how I would set up multiple scenes for a "movie"... I havent seen anything about it in the help / tute stuff

Thanks

RonC

A lot of people seem to do it by using multiple Moho files and then stitching them together afterwards. However I do it like this, just set up all your scenes in the same Moho file. Whenever you want to change scene, just use the camera tools to move the camera to wherever you've positioned the next scene. Make sure the camera's movement is set to "Step" in the timeline and there ya go, new scene. Works like a charm. A good charm not a dodgy one


P.S. Not necessarily necessary, but something I like to do is create rectangles the size of the camera shot, set them so they don't render, and position them where my scenes are, just so that I can see where the edge of the screen is gonna be.

P.P.S. Any questions etc feel free to keep asking, as I'm pretty sure this fails to make a terribly great deal of sense, it's Christmas and I'm tired and hungover

Another possibility is to create each scene under a group layer under a switch layer and use switch keyframes to go from one scene to another at the appropriate time.

ok cool that last way sounds good to me... will it work well do you think with huge projects???

RoNC

I don't see why not...I hope not because that's what I'm planning on doing. I wouldn't suggest putting your entire movie/episode/whatever in one file though, just the one scene. Hope it all runs smoothly for ya.

okay say i set the camera to snap right over to this new layer, and say i want to "snap" a character right there too, i tried move layer, to having some weird ARC showing up, not doing what I expected. How would I make it "snap" to this new area on the workspace?

RonC

rpc9943 wrote:will it work well do you think with huge projects???

No, working like that is asking for trouble. Say you want to add 12 frames to scene 03/12, you then have to move all keys in the scenes beyond 03 12 fr. as well, and everyone who has tried to move keys for more than one layer a time in Moho knows that it involves a lot of work... (macton has a shift scripts that helps a bit, but the keys interpolation gets lost).
Keep every scene in a separate workfile and edit together your scenes in an edit software, there are a few free ones.

I would like to add, that your work videos should be encoded in a format that is as uncompressed as possible (e.g. QuickTime's None) and do your audio and video compression in the combined file.

On the Mac there is a program called MPEG Streamclip, which allows you to load several movie files and export them as one file. You can set the video and audio compression anyway you like. And it is freeware. I'm sure the Windows platform has a similar simple application.

So you really don't need a full blown video editor if you have done all the editing in Moho. A program that stitches the video files together in one file will do in that case. Only if you have to do some additional editing, a video editor is necessary.

rylleman wrote:... edit together your scenes in an edit software, there are a few free ones.

Can you name off a few? (for winxp)

thanks!!!

RonC

rpc9943 wrote:Can you name off a few? (for winxp)

Avid has a free version, limited to 2 video tracks but that should be enough for basic editing. Avid Free DV.
Wax is a free compositor/editor, Wax.
Zweistein is another, I didn't get it to work properly, Zweistein.
And as you're running winXP you probably have Windows Movie Maker already installed.
Then there are a few not free, but quite cheap editors, I'm running EditStudio 5, it works ok.

well looks so far that AVID free is the only one who will support importing .mov files... i just don't get it, cause the only export that will work properly with sound files synched is .mov .... can someone explain figuring out a method (i dont want to use avid free...) to exporting stuff properly so that I can get it working properly within video editor that is free?

RonC

I use Quicktime Pro to stitch together, it's good for the task, but does cost money.

okay im going to ask this because i have no clue about doing this. Here's why. If i export a cartoon to .avi or .mpg it doesnt sync with the audio properly. So I'm constricted to video editing programs that can only import .mov files. That leaves me with avid dv free. I don't even know if i like that program at all whatsoever...

I do own adobe audition, and tracktion2 which are both audio DAW's... but they dont do transitions in video, and dont import .mov's either

i dont want to spend a lot of money, i'd prefer to do this part free.

any ideas?

RonC

I haven't used it yet, but the open source project Jashaka looks pretty promising. NLE and effects, and as opposed to many open souce editors they say it's entirely happy with .MOV files. I plan on checking it out myself momentarily. It would seem it's still definitely a work-in-progress, but if they get in there what they want it should be pretty damn spiffy.

yow it doesnt even launch on my computer...

looks like crap avid is the only one.

RonC