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Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:05 pm
by Robbax
Hello Community,
This is my first post in that Forum.
I'm still a beginner in Moho (Anima Studio) and thats probably why I often get in trouble with it.
Currently I have a problem with depth (or something like that).
If you might take a look at this following picture, you maybe be able to understand , what I mean:

I made a more complex rig than usual. By doing that I didn't recognize an issue I kinda build in.
Somehow all layers and folders of my charakter are on a different level of depth.
From the "Orbit"-perspective it looks like that:

I tried to select every layer and folder to set the Z-position to zero.
But it didn't work.
Has anyone of you an idea, what my mistake could be?
Do I have to rebuild my charakter with some tip in mind?
You are my last hope of saving the charakter.
Best regards
Robbax
P.S.: I'm sorry if my english is not the best...

Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:11 pm
by dueyftw
Can you post the file?
With out looking at it I'm not sure.
Dale
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:38 pm
by Robbax
Sure I can:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxuzQ ... W9pdjlNc3c
I used an Photoshop-file for my mouth. It's also in the drive-folder.
Thanks a lot!
Robbax
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:13 am
by synthsin75
You have x/y rotation on many of the layers.
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:33 am
by dueyftw
Set the z dept to 0 on the top folder - "Link Right"
That should fix the problem.
Dale
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:29 pm
by Robbax
@dueyftw
Thanks for you advice, but it somehow didn't work.
I set the z-Position to zero. Maybe thats not, what you meant...
@synthsin75
I have never heard about such an option. Where can i disable "x/y rotation".
I wasn't able to find it with the help of Google.
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:46 pm
by o0Ampy0o
I have never heard about such an option. Where can i disable "x/y rotation".
I wasn't able to find it with the help of Google.
See pages 129-130 of the User's Manual. Click on each layer and select the 4th icon from the right in the Layer box. Look at the coordinates across the top interface bar. You should see "X rotation" and a box with a number, "Y rotation" and a box with a number and "Reset."
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:28 pm
by dueyftw
Robbax wrote:@dueyftw
Thanks for you advice, but it somehow didn't work.
I set the z-Position to zero. Maybe thats not, what you meant...
I have no clue what you did.
Here is the fixed file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkrg1uf7v9qlk ... .moho?dl=0
Let me know if it works so I delete it from my Dropbox.
Dale
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:19 pm
by Robbax
Wow! I don't know what you exactly did... but it worked.
Thank you very much!
May I ask one last question?
How did you manage to do that?
Could you discribe it more detailed?
For you understanding:
I tried to enter "0" here:

Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:44 pm
by hayasidist
@ Robbax - might be worth checking that you do NOT have Edit \ Preferences \ Layers/Objects \ Auto Center New layers set. This can cause new vector layers to be given "strange" x/y/z positions if you've moved the camera ...
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:49 pm
by Robbax
@hayasidist
Thanks for your advise.
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:10 am
by dueyftw
Did you download the corrected file? It works for me.
Dale
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:41 am
by Robbax
As I said: It worked fine for me as well!

I was just asking, how you managed to do it.
Because it's not the first time for me having this problem,
I just wanted to know how I can fix it on my own.
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:03 am
by dueyftw
Robbax wrote:As I said: It worked fine for me as well!

I was just asking, how you managed to do it.
Because it's not the first time for me having this problem,
I just wanted to know how I can fix it on my own.
Your using very poor construction methods. It not that simple. I have posted a video about origins. But it more than that and I will make a video explaining what your doing and how its wrong. No time right now to make a video.
For the moment make sure that your not moving layers that far and changing their size when placing them into bone layers.
Dale
Re: Problem with depth - How to get rid of it?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:16 am
by synthsin75
Robbax wrote:As I said: It worked fine for me as well!

I was just asking, how you managed to do it.
Because it's not the first time for me having this problem,
I just wanted to know how I can fix it on my own.
He zeroed the layer's Z SCALE.