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I'm having a problem with smart bone for mouth switches.

I have a Mouth Layer which is a switch layer for 5 different switch layers of mouths.
Neutral, Angry, Happy, Scared and expressions.
Each one of those has 13 mouth shapes inside.



I made a smart bone dial for the Mouth Layer which switches between the five mouth types.
That works as it should.

I then made another smart bone dial that should switch mouth shapes inside neutral, angry and so on.
In the actions menu it works, but when I go to the mainline it doesn't. It just stays the same.



I tried re-rigging and made the mouth control bone to switch between Neutral, angry... and it works.
Just doesn't work with switch layer inside a switch layer.

Can I not make smart bone dials for a switch layer inside a switch layer?

Could you post the file?
I have an idea about what it could be happening, but it's hard to guess without checking the layers.

Yeah, sure. I'll send you the file over private msg.

I've put together a test set up with just 3 "types" and 4 "phonemes" - with the two smart bones in the "type" switch layer -- and it works as it should.


so what you're doing SHOULD work ...

but a common issue with bones used in actions is that _visually_ a bone's angle is the same as is keyed in the action, but actually (numerically) the timeline (mainline) bone angle is offset by multiples of 360 degrees.

IOW: a bone that LOOKS as though it's at 0 degrees might have been turned "the wrong way" and actually be at -360 degrees... but the action has been keyed from (say) 90 through 0 to -180 and on to -270 -- the -360 never appears in the action so "nothing happens" when the bone turns from what you think is 0 (actually -360) on to what is visually -180 (but is actually -540)

In your diagram the mouth control SB might be at -180 or +180 ...

and the mouth switch SB is (probably) active from 90 to 180 -- but might be -270 to -180 or ...


hope that helps... if not --- just come back ...

So I didn't change anything, just restarted my pc and now it works. So I guess something was bugged.

Thanks for your help, guys!

I have a question - how can you be happy in a neutral way?

jahnocli wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:25 pm I have a question - how can you be happy in a neutral way?

Zen

ha ha! Classic