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Hi folks.
im having a problem.
my animations look like crap when i try to export it.
I render as an uncompressed file and it looks great.
then i put it in an editing program(wmm) try to put it on youtube or something and it looks not so good.
I have to be doing something wrong so any advice would be great.
it's driving me nuts
Paul

The problem that I've heard is that the "default" conversion done by Youtube looks worse than doing the conversion yourself before uploading. I don't know the details of the process myself.

-vern

If your using WMM, high quality (small) 428/240 pixels is the best your gonna get (which sucks bit isn't actually horrible)

Depending on the size of the file you can render it out of AS as a quicktime file and use the Sorensen 3 compression, if your lucky the file size will be under 100mb-

I'm stuck in dial up hell. I use MPEG-2 with a constance bit rate 1000 to 2000. This will make your work look like crap, but you can get 1meg per minute conversions. You Tube will convert your 100 meg up load down to this size any way. So up loading quality is a wast of time. Also add 5 seconds of content to the end of your videos. You Tube will crop off the last second or two. Also You Tube sound will be off by about a half of a second.

Dale

I have done a bit of experimenting with exporting animations out of Anime and uploading to Youtube and Google Video. Here is the procedure we use which give us the best results on Youtube:

1. Export animation from Anime as a mov file - Sorenson 3 compression - medium quality - 30 fps

2. Convert to dv avi file using Video Impression 2 software

3. Import avi file into Windows Movie Maker for final production

4. Export final animation as wmv file - 720 x 480 - 3000 kbps video - 128 kbps audio

A typical file size example from the procedure above:

1 min 26 second animation = 20 meg for the wmv file

Here is a sample of the quality produced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcIBk-yz4TY

This sample is draft one of scene 36 from the feature length movie we are animating.

When viewing your video on Youtube, make sure to click second button on bottom lower left of the Youtube player to change to original size which will show a better quality (note the better quality is smaller than Youtube's default expanded resolution size).

Although the procedure we use above does not produce picture perfect quality on Youtube, when I burn the WMM project to a DVD (instead of exporting as a wmv file) - and I play it on a HDTV the quality is awesome. I am sure others would beg to differ, but I am very happy with the quality.

Why the "wmv" conversion? Doesn't Youtube take mov files?

-vern

For some reason the wmv files ive tried work well. Any other file format I've uploaded has ended up with audio out of sync or really slow streaming.

D.K

heyvern wrote:Why the "wmv" conversion? Doesn't Youtube take mov files?

-vern

Are you responding to my post or the OP?

If you are asking me why we use wmv files to upload animation videos on Youtube -- the answer is because we use Windows Movie Maker as our final editing program and that program handles wmv files the best.

Yes, Youtube does accept mov files. We could upload all 70 of our mov files to Youtube after the final film is complete -- but they will not have the final music or transitions. On the other hand we can export pieces of the final film straight out of WMM as a wmv file (these pieces will include music, transitions, etc.) and the quality is just as good on Youtube as using our individual mov files.

Plus we won't have to upload 70 individual mov files, probably more like 10-12 wmv files. Much easier on the upload and for the viewer to attempt to watch the film (not that anyone will watch our film).

WMM does not accept or export mov files, which is why we have to convert our original mov files to dv avi files and then export as wmv files.

Convoluted -- Yes. But it works for us two yahoos who spend much of our waking hours "playing' with digital paper dolls.

What I've found works best is export from AS whatever format you want, but then convert it to FLV with a convertor (I have Flash 8 so I use the conversion program bundled with that). Set the FLV settings to custom, with ~2000 kbps video compression. Also, your video should be high quality, if not NSTC then something like 500 x 375 (I usually use this as it's better then 320x240, but doesn't eat up too much HD space).

Upload the straight movie files may have the same effect, but it's going to take a lot longer to upload and compress.

Found something that might be helpful-

http://www.squidoo.com/youtuberight

It shows the best settings for youtube on a couple different editing programs-