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Image with bone - abrupt render

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:33 am
by Aleksey Gankov
Does anybody meet such kind of distortion while rendering image with bone:
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The example is here: http://ifolder.ru/16218318

Any small shift of the bone in frame 0 may solve the problem, but as we met it not only that case - maybe any idea how to prevent that at all or any other solution.

thanks

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:08 am
by Genete
It seems that you have a tiny (almost zero length) bone somewhere and it has a movement that produces that kind of distortion.
At frame 0 select the bone strength tool and look carefully around where the distortions starts.
-G

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:07 pm
by Aleksey Gankov
Genete wrote:It seems that you have a tiny (almost zero length) bone somewhere and it has a movement that produces that kind of distortion.
At frame 0 select the bone strength tool and look carefully around where the distortions starts.
-G
Well, I think (see screenshots) the bone is not zero length. Small changes in bone position or in it's strength solves the problem but, anyway, unstable warping is a fact.
Here is the setup that results in buggy render:
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and in that case the render is clear:
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Well, not so different? ;)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:58 pm
by Genete
What really interest me is the custom tools you have installed in your Anime Studio version... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Can you share what does some of the tools do and where did you obtain them?
-G

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:08 pm
by Aleksey Gankov
Genete wrote:What really interest me is the custom tools you have installed in your Anime Studio version... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Can you share what does some of the tools do and where did you obtain them?
-G
v6.x

You may get them:
http://ftp.2danimator.ru/asp6/surv_kit/ ... ingual.zip

I did not use most of them, but there is short description in the tools body.

!

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:51 pm
by Víctor Paredes
Yeah, there are several icons I don't know on your tool palette.
Maybe we could share our customized tool palettes, here is a screenshot of mine
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Now, with your problem I think it's because you have selected "region binding" instead "flexible binding" (on bone layer proprieties, "bones" tab). I have not a clear explanation, but if you change it, it will work.

PD: thanks for the exe, it was a little bit hard to guess how to download and install the file (obviously, I made a backup of my sripts first), but there are some great tools there. Thanks!
(checkout the select layer and select shape tool, genete :wink:)

This little exe make me think again about the big need of having an automatized way to install scripts. I think it wouldn't be difficult, all the info is there, we just need an interface to make the installation, grouping, icon selection and key assignment easier (also an automatized backup would be great).
But that is material for another thread. Thanks again for the file, and thanks to the russian guy who wrote that exe file (this exe, the japanese ASPconv and scene selector make me wonder how many little software related to AS we just don't know... It's terrible!)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:58 pm
by Genete
You may get them:
http://ftp.2danimator.ru/asp6/surv_kit/ ... ingual.zip

I did not use most of them, but there is short description in the tools body.
I don't have AS windows version (I use linux) is there a linux alternative?
:(

-G

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:23 pm
by Víctor Paredes
Genete, here are my scripts and the russian pack as zip
russian: http://www.mediafire.com/?zn2yhky5fne
mine: http://www.mediafire.com/?ogw4g24imyd

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:59 pm
by Genete
selgin wrote:Genete, here are my scripts and the russian pack as zip
russian: http://www.mediafire.com/?zn2yhky5fne
mine: http://www.mediafire.com/?ogw4g24imyd
Thanks!!
(Aleksey, sorry for the off topic)
-G

Re: !

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:24 am
by Aleksey Gankov
selgin wrote:
Now, with your problem I think it's because you have selected "region binding" instead "flexible binding" (on bone layer proprieties, "bones" tab). I have not a clear explanation, but if you change it, it will work.
Well, the "region binding" was the requirement of the animators who works with model.
Anyway, such kind of render behaviour is abnormal. Am i wrong?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:33 pm
by super8mm
My two way ticket doesn't work, is it because I use ASP 6.1?


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I got it! I just realized that forgot to add it in the tool list.