5 second video / upgrade to 10 question.
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5 second video / upgrade to 10 question.
So i notice that they have a new version out, and I'm wondering if it's worth getting. For the most part i'm satisfied with what version 9 has to offer me. Especially since I don't use bone rigging anymore which seems to be a large focus of the update for the new one. That said, I notice that they mention a stronger memory aspect and GPU acceleration. This actually catches my attention and makes me wonder if it's worth shelling out the 150 bucks for upgrade.
You see, one of the biggest issues I've been having is that when I use this program, I tend to shoot for atmosphere, that could range from sound effects, to DIY visual effects or whatever. For the most case, I want the world to feel alive and in order to do this, I incorporate atmosphere shots that tend to have ALOT going on in it. There are layers upon layers acting out their cycles. As you would expect, this results in slowing the program down to a crawl and causes a lot of crashes. I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve for getting around this, but they're all at the cost of quality.
So, my question then is, does Anime Studio 10's mention of more power allow for the creation of shots like this to flow with ease in the software or am I misunderstanding the aforementioned feature?
A quick disclaimer: a naked body glides past the camera, you don't see anything but a bear ass. Sorry, this is best I have so far.
You see, one of the biggest issues I've been having is that when I use this program, I tend to shoot for atmosphere, that could range from sound effects, to DIY visual effects or whatever. For the most case, I want the world to feel alive and in order to do this, I incorporate atmosphere shots that tend to have ALOT going on in it. There are layers upon layers acting out their cycles. As you would expect, this results in slowing the program down to a crawl and causes a lot of crashes. I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve for getting around this, but they're all at the cost of quality.
So, my question then is, does Anime Studio 10's mention of more power allow for the creation of shots like this to flow with ease in the software or am I misunderstanding the aforementioned feature?
A quick disclaimer: a naked body glides past the camera, you don't see anything but a bear ass. Sorry, this is best I have so far.
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Re: 5 second video / upgrade to 10 question.
I should also point out that the Chrystal clear images I have imposed into the shot (The woman face, the heaves pop ad) tend to shake uncontrollably as well. I haven't provided any cause for them to do that. When it renders, they just do that on their own. If I upgrade to ASP 10, will that be an issue as well? I mean, somehow I don't expect anyone to be readily able to answer that question, but hey worth a shot.
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Re: 5 second video / upgrade to 10 question.
I don't have version 10 yet, but I couldn't resist mentioning the body eerily sliding down some sort of metal rail stuck through his head was very well animated, for making me want to roll up in a ball and cry.
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hahahaha. thanks. Precisely what i'm going for. It's slow going, but I do have plans for that guy. Or at least, another creature of his variety that'll put that one to shame.Danimal wrote:I don't have version 10 yet, but I couldn't resist mentioning the body eerily sliding down some sort of metal rail stuck through his head was very well animated, for making me want to roll up in a ball and cry.
You could call that an establishment shot, one for the train station itself (Location), and one for that creatures existence(Character establishment), and one for the world's sense of culture(background), all wrapped up in one 4 second shot. A very large workload for ASP to handle. Totally prone to crashes in the development stage due to memory, but still manageable. I won't be buying 10 until I know whether or not that "GPU accelerator" feature can fix the issue.
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Can't answer the questions regarding 10, but have you tried building up the scene in segments? Rendering out maybe a background shot as video, and then pulling the video in and working over it for the foreground stuff? (or the other way around preserving transparency)
That way you don't necessarily have to have all the cycles processing at once. I've seen this approach in particle layers where the particles are complex point animations. Replacing the vector animation with a rendered out clip of it saving a lot of process power.
That way you don't necessarily have to have all the cycles processing at once. I've seen this approach in particle layers where the particles are complex point animations. Replacing the vector animation with a rendered out clip of it saving a lot of process power.
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Absolutely. Seeing as this shot is completely done, I'm leaving it alone, but I was thinking about upgrading it in layers. Background shot. Render. Super impose all the characters walking around into shot. Render, Super impose the video of the catwalk guy. Render. I haven't put the idea to the test yet, but I think it'll work. It has to work, as complicated as this shot was, this is just the tip of the ice burg.ddrake wrote:Can't answer the questions regarding 10, but have you tried building up the scene in segments? Rendering out maybe a background shot as video, and then pulling the video in and working over it for the foreground stuff? (or the other way around preserving transparency)
That way you don't necessarily have to have all the cycles processing at once. I've seen this approach in particle layers where the particles are complex point animations. Replacing the vector animation with a rendered out clip of it saving a lot of process power.
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That's exactly the way I'd deal with this. Render whatever fits into one video, then combine those videos in a final pass. One of the first tricks is to render everything which doesn't move into one single image - saves so much time.
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Re: 5 second video / upgrade to 10 question.
beautiful. Okay. I was playing with this idea, but you guys definitely certified it for me while simultaneously saving me the buck fifty needed for the upgrade. Much appreciated. Wow, i suddenly have newly found enthusiasm. hahahahahaa. everything ought to be much easier now.slowtiger wrote:That's exactly the way I'd deal with this. Render whatever fits into one video, then combine those videos in a final pass. One of the first tricks is to render everything which doesn't move into one single image - saves so much time.
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In your case take care to apply the noise effect only on that last render when you combine all the videos!
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Re: 5 second video / upgrade to 10 question.
Before all is said and done, i'm going to re render everything without the noise filter and use a separate program for the noise filters and the what have yous, now that I have that ability. I feel like its association with the render process is extremely detrimental. The details in my videos have a tendency to glitch out during the rendering, especially with my mask/shading techniques and i think that the noise filter plays a role. Which is actually another reason why the aforementioned video layering approach is another good idea.slowtiger wrote:In your case take care to apply the noise effect only on that last render when you combine all the videos!
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