ligne switch

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:05 pm

i guys,
i'd like to know if it's possible to hide a line in the time line and then make it reappear. to explain better: i have an arm that bends from straight to 90 degrees angle but to give it a full expression i want to be able to show the criss between the top of the arm and the forearm. is there anyway to do that without having to use switch layer? is it possible? HELP!!!

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:16 pm

Myles had the perfect tutorials to get this, only that I lost the link long time ago... Maybe someone that knows what I'm talking about (myles i.e?) could put the link here... THANKS!

PS: If I've understand what are you talking about, basically you need to divide the arm in two shapes and two Outlines and play with the Shape and Outline order to get the results that you want, uf... is not difficult, but maybe (again) somebody could explain it better than I can, hmmm... sorry...

myles · Post by **myles** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:34 pm

Hi!

I think Ramón is referring to the first part of my bone constraints tutorial for Moho version 4, which you can see here:
http://www-personal.monash.edu.au/~myle ... bones.html
Thanks, Ramón!

The tutorial is a little out of date, as Moho version 5 introduced the capacity to hide a segment of an outline.
The segment hiding feature is not animatable, although you can use a workaround by making a separate outline object for each segment of the outline where you wish to animate the visibility, and animating alpha/opacity to hide the separate outline segment object (I hope that makes sense).

In Moho version 5, you can break the arm (ouch!) into 2 fills with outlines, and just hide the segments of the outlines that cross the arm, rather than the version 4 equivalent, where you had to create 2 fills without outlines and 2 partial outlines.

Regards, Myles.

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:59 pm

Jaja, THANKS TO YOU!!! That tutorials were very importants to me when I began with Moho and I'll always be GRATEFUL!

PS: And definitelly yes... I had explained it very bad...

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:00 pm

i am sorry myles you lost me a little bit--->
although you can use a workaround by making a separate outline object for each segment of the outline where you wish to animate the visibility, and animating alpha/opacity to hide the separate outline segment object do you mean i need to have a separate layer for the outline and then work on the opacity of it to make it disappear...?
my arm is divided in two shape (2 layer) the one on top (the forearm) of the other is the one with the small outline i want to make appear and dsisappear at will. i don't really know if i make sense, i checked your tutorial, it's close but not quite what i am after... i'll try this way with the opacity and i'll let you know. thanks again

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:09 pm

actually you raised another problem for me as i don't know how to animate the opacity

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damn this is a bad day, i also realise i have no clue as how to upload picture either, i think i going crazy.

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Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:13 pm

You only must click in the Color box of your Outline or Fill and slide the "scuared" bar or change tha Alfa value in the frame that you want make the Opacity/Color changes, that's all

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:21 pm

I'VE TRIED THAT IT DOESN'T WORK RAMON! OR MAYBE I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG. I START AT FRAME ONE WITH AN "INVISIBLE OUTLINE" AND THEN AT FRAME 6 I SWITCHED BACK TO BLACK. NOTHING. IS THAT WHAT I AM SUPPOSED TO DO? I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED. THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE...

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:35 pm

I don't know if this will be the problem, but to can see the Opacity changes in Editing View (real time) you must check Tranparency in Display Quality Pop-Up window (lower-right corner of Main/Editing Moho window) if this is not the problem, remember that you only must go to the frame that you want to make the changes and modify the Alfa value in the Color Picker Window... Nothing can be wrong

...GOOD LUCK!

PS: to the changes make gradually be sure that your keyframe is not a Step one (try Smoth) with Right click over the created Keyframe...

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:46 pm

THANKS RAMON, I FOUND THE ALFA FINALLY /OPACITY

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:54 pm

I CAN MAKE MY OUTLINE APPEAR BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT DISAPPEAR USING ALPHA ANY IDEA WHY?

myles · Post by **myles** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:15 pm

dekka wrote:i am sorry myles you lost me a little bit--->
although you can use a workaround by making a separate outline object for each segment of the outline where you wish to animate the visibility, and animating alpha/opacity to hide the separate outline segment object do you mean i need to have a separate layer for the outline and then work on the opacity of it to make it disappear...?

No - same layer, same points, different outline "shape".

For instance, draw a rectangle, add an extra point to the top line, and give it a fill, but no outline. Now select just the 3 top points only. Select the Create Shape tool and you can create a separate "shape" that applies only to that line across the top of the rectangle.
Likewise, you can select every point except the extra one on the top line, and assign a different outline to all sides except the top.

Now you can select the top line and change its opacity separately to the other outline and the fill.

Regards, Myles.

myles · Post by **myles** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:27 pm

dekka wrote:I CAN MAKE MY OUTLINE APPEAR BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT DISAPPEAR USING ALPHA ANY IDEA WHY?

No.

It should be the same process but in reverse - just slide the alpha slider to the other end of the opacity scale.

Regards, Myles.

dekka · Post by **dekka** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:20 am

working. thanks for your answers and your patience... a four year old child hey... i need to find myself one of those