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Release points from smart bone?

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Okay, so I made a left arm with vector shapes, and then I used a smart bone to make the elbow bend correctly. It works great.

Then I copied the left-arm points to make a right arm in a new vector layer. Unfortunately, I soon discovered that the copied points remain stuck to the left-arm smart bone. I tried releasing the points, but no luck. The copied points continue to move when the left arm smart bone is manipulated.

Is there a way to release the points from a smart bone?

I tried re-naming the shapes in the right arm, but no luck. And I tried using duplicate layer instead of copying/pasting points, but that also did not work.

Presently, it looks like I'm going to have to make the right arm from scratch. I was hoping to copy/paste the points from the left arm to make a right arm, then I was going to try copying/pasting the keyframes from the left-arm smart bone action to make the right-arm smart bone action. I'm not sure if that would have worked. If there's an easy way to duplicate the completed left arm to make a right arm, while maintaining the carefully built smart bone action, please let me know.

Thanks.

I'm using Moho 12.5.
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Just go into that left arm SB action and delete the point motion keyframes for the copied/duplicates vectors.
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Thank you. It worked perfectly.

In hindsight, the solution is imminently logical and sensible, and I would have never figured it out.
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I have a similar question. After creating an animation of an Owl raising it's Right Wing, and the head moving side to side. I added eyebrows on a separate layer to move with the head. In same group. The last point on the Right Eyebrow goes all jabberwocky. Not sure where, or how , or why. I have been trying to Bind layer and or Bind points on that layer. So far nothing works. I'm using Moho 12.5. And, Windows 10 OS. Thanks for the help.
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Might have to see the file, or just the problem bits.
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MikeMcGrane wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:29 pm I have a similar question. After creating an animation of an Owl raising it's Right Wing, and the head moving side to side. I added eyebrows on a separate layer to move with the head. In same group. The last point on the Right Eyebrow goes all jabberwocky. Not sure where, or how , or why. I have been trying to Bind layer and or Bind points on that layer. So far nothing works. I'm using Moho 12.5. And, Windows 10 OS. Thanks for the help.
It sound like one point of the eyebrow is being controlled by the wrong bone. When the happens to my rig, I usually Release Layer and Points, then rebind the points. If that doesn't work, I will delete the bad point and see what happens. Then add back the point and see what happens (NOT undo; use Add Points Tool). That usually fixes it.

Sometimes the problem was, when I was creating the shape, I double-clicked when adding points, so there will be two points that are almost stacked. If you did that, you may need to delete the extra point, which is likely not part of the "shape" per se, but connected by a line to the shape.
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Thank You. Greatly appreciated. I will give that I try. I'm noticing a lot of problems w Moho 12.5 lately. It keeps crashing on me while I'm working, then when I reboot, and try to save file, it crashes again. The other fiasco is while to animate text layers like in Power Point, or Premier it crashes then too. Like WTF, OVER. Any suggestions?
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First, does Moho do this all the time or just with one particular project file.

If it's just the one project, check for and delete any unintended negative keyframes. That's the first thing I do when Moho misbehaves. If you don't know what I'm talking about, look here...

http://lostmarble.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 4&start=15

If this doesn't solve the problem, the problem might with the project's content, i.e., something that is not fully compatible or may even be corrupt. I would try removing items from a copy of your project one at a time, and testing for crashing. (Naturally, it helps to know what steps will reliably crash your project.) This will help you isolate any potentially 'bad' items. If you find something, try re-saving, -downloading, -creating that item from its source. You might also try alternative formats for the item.

If Moho misbehaves regardless of which project is open, even new ones or the included content, then I suspect your installation. In this case, try uninstalling Moho and removing any hidden files, and then re-installing it from the official final installer. (Be sure to deactivate your license before doing this. You get a limited number of activations unless you deactivate first.)

Hope this helps.
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