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Mayfly
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Lasso tool issue

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Hi all, I was wondering if any of you would know why my lasso tool, would be off. The line is being drawn about 2 inches from the cursor. Sorry if this has been answered, I searched and didn't see anything. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Lasso tool issue

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Are you running the latest Moho, version 13.5.2? I recall another user describing a similar problem with an earlier version but that had since been fixed.

Also wondering, what's your OS? Are you using an alternative pointing device like a graphics tablet? It's helpful to provide more info like this, especially for issues that most users are not seeing.

I'll try to find the comments about the bug in the older version and see if there was anything else to it.
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Ah, I found the info. The offset Lasso bug occurred for a few users running Moho 13.5.1 with 4k displays. These users reported that the bug was fixed for 13.5.2, so make sure you're running the latest version of Moho.

If you are running 13.5.2 and still seeing this problem, let me know, and include any other relevant info (OS, hardware specs, etc.,) and I'll pass it along to the devs.

Hope this helps.
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I have a 4k display in my laptop. If I have time today, I can check this specific issue here.

FWIW, this laptop is currently set to display at HD res or 1920 x 1080. I use this resolution to correct other UI issues in multiple art/animation programs I use, but mainly to get optimal screen recordings.

I know lowering the display resolution is not a real fix but it might do for now. I've kept this 17-inch display at HD res for a few years and it's been fine to work with.

My desktop has a 27-inch tablet with a 2560 x 1440 display and the Lasso works fine there too, so it may not necessarily be a display related issue. But the real test will be to try this on a 4k display.

I'll post again after I try this on the laptop at 4k.
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@Greenlaw........thanks for the reply, I forgot how fast you guys are. Sadly, I'm running 12, because it was only $100. So does that mean I'm screwed?
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Oh, I forgot I'm running on windows. My display is set to 2736x1824. I switched it to 1920x1080, and the results were the same. I was tight on cash, but it's starting to look like I shoulda sprung for 13. I'm using the latest update for ver. 12, so it's not like an update fix is coming. Thanks for the help. It's hard to teach yourself something, so you guys are a godsend.
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Mayfly wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:58 am ...I'm running on windows. My display is set to 2736x1824. I switched it to 1920x1080, and the results were the same. I was tight on cash, but it's starting to look like I shoulda sprung for 13. I'm using the latest update for ver. 12, so it's not like an update fix is coming.
Hmm...that's really strange. I'm running 12.5 here at home and at work for years, on a variety of hardware configurations, on Win 10, and it's never shown this lasso offset issue. I'll check for more info and let you know if I find anything.

Back to the subject of display size, after setting the resolution to 1920 x 1080, make sure the scaling is set to 100%. If it's set to 150%, that might make a difference in the UI's layout and behavior.

Just to be clear, you are running Moho 12.5 (build 22438) correct? This was the last official build in the Moho 12 cycle and it was by far the most stable release. (As a matter of fact, 12.5 is the version I rely on at my workplace.) The only place you can get the official final release installer is here:

https://my.smithmicro.com/

Any other 12.x installer probably won't run correctly now since Smith-Micro's license servers went offline quite some time ago. If you haven't downloaded this final installer, get it immediately. Smith-Micro no longer owns or supports Moho so this page may eventually go away.

These days Lost Marble supports Moho but only from version 13.5 onward.

Here's another thought: You don't have any tool mods installed do you? Just wondering if the default lasso 12.5 tool is being bypassed by an incompatible mod.
Mayfly wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:45 am Sadly, I'm running 12, because it was only $100. So does that mean I'm screwed?
A cross-grade from Smith-Micro's Moho 12.5 to Lost Marble's 13.5.2 is available for $149, so including what you spent for Moho 12.x, you'd be getting Moho 13.5.2 for about $249. That's a pretty good deal considering the full price for Moho 13.5.2 is about $400.

Moho 12.5 is still an awesome release. I used it to create 2D animations on several TV shows including Boss Baby: Back In Business, Kung Fu Panda: Paws Of Destiny, and Fast & Furious: Spy Racers. Even though it's 3 1/2 years old, I still use this version for its reliability.

That said, Moho 13.5.2 is also an excellent release and well worth the upgrade price. The new features like Vitruvian Bones, Perspective Warp, Quad Warp, Smart Warp Layer, Wind Dynamics, and the significantly improved layered PSD support are real game changers. I would look toward eventually upgrading to this version since there's no guarantee that an upgrade path from 12.5 to 14.0 will be available, and the release of 14.0 is probably still a long ways off.

Hope this insight is helpful in making a decision.
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@Greenlaw

OMG Thanks dude. Dropped the scaling to 100, and that did it. I thought I was screwed :lol:

As for the upgrade, I came across the $150 upgrade while looking for a solution, and decided that's what I was gonna do once I got paid. Thanks again.
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Great! Happy that one of these tips helped out! :D

The 100% fix is what I used when I had a Wacom Cintiq Companion 2 tablet computer years ago, which I recall was set to 150% scaling by default. When the device was at full resolution, 200% made everything too big and 100% was too small. After I dropped the res down to 1920 x 1080 and dropped the scaling to 100%, everything was fine, including Moho.

I don't recall seeing the lasso offset problem back then but I don't think I used the tablet at 150% long enough to run into that.

I'll forward this info to the devs; they might not have tried using Moho at 150% scaling.
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