Moho 13.5.2 problem with predefined actions

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Moho 13.5.2 problem with predefined actions

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Hi everyone,
We have pretty complex rigs for our TV show production and they works perfect in 13.5. but in 13.5.2 some predefined actions don't works any more.
Here is the problem.

We have dynamic activation on some bones as a predefined action. When we apply that action on rig, it works perfect in 13.5, and bones become dynamic. when we open the rig in 13.5.2 and apply that action, nothing happens.
We tried that on few computers, to check if maybe it is something with system, but it is the same. On Moho 13.5 works, on 13.5.2 doesn't work.

Any idea what can be the problem?

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Do you have Animation>Enable Bone Dynamics checked?
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Thank you, but yes, Enable bone dynamic is checked.
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As probably there is no solution for now, is there a way to downgrade to first MOHO 13.5 version?
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I would contact Victor about that and explain the situation.

Just wondering, does this problem still occur in new projects using Actions created in 13.5.2, or only with projects/actions created with 13.5.0 opened in 13.5.2?

Do you have a project file you can share that has this issue? I'll be happy to look at a demo project here. I haven't run into this issue myself but haven't specifically tested for it either.
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Thank you,

yes sure, I can send you one of those rigs as all of them has the same problem, And they are created in 13.5 version, and do not work in 13.5.2
Just not sure how can I sand you the file, is there some private message, or you can send me your mail, on brkich@yahoo.com.

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Ok, will contact you shortly.
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I recreate the same action in new version. The action is very simple, just activation of bone dynamics. And it doesn't work :( .
Just to explain why we need that action. When you have bones in some smart actions ( like bones of hair in head turn), then bone dynamics doesn't works if you just set it in a rig. But when we made action to activate the bone dynamics, and insert key for that action in time line, bone becomes dynamic, at least in version 13.5. And that was easy and elegant solution to have dynamics on bones that has to be in some other actions to.
Now, in 13.5.2 we cant make that work.
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We found solution. And here it is, if someone else has similar problem with rigs made in earlier version.

What makes problem is a switch layer in 13 5 2 version. In the main switch layer we have tree bone layers (for front, side and back rig of character). When we take the bone layer outside the switch layer everything works. We didn't have to do that in version 13.5, every actions works on every bone layer when it is in switch layer.

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Dynamics not working in a switch layer was report awhile back.

If you enable interpolate sub-layers for the switch, this somehow allows the dynamics to work.
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Good call Wes! I did not know about this workaround.
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Great, Thank you Wes!
That solves the problem. Just one click, and our rigs are good to go with latest 13.5.3 MOHO.

Thank you so much!
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Glad I could help. Luckily you mentioning switch layers reminded me of that bug report I made and workaround I found months ago.
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