Moho 14.4 crashes whenever I want to use the Guideline-Tool

[Hugging_Bear]

Hi guys,
after the latest update, Moho 14.4 crashes, whenever I try to use the Guidelines-Tool. Very annoying!
BTW - how do I get rid of the annoying Library window that appears by every start? I mean, how do I keep it from appearing?
One last tip: If it isn't broken - don't fix! Moho 14.3 worked flawless ... now I stumble over the first bug within the first 5 minutes.

[hayasidist]

Hi guys,
after the latest update, Moho 14.4 crashes, whenever I try to use the Guidelines-Tool. Very annoying!
BTW - how do I get rid of the annoying Library window that appears by every start? I mean, how do I keep it from appearing?
One last tip: If it isn't broken - don't fix! Moho 14.3 worked flawless ... now I stumble over the first bug within the first 5 minutes.

do you mean Grid? or if it's MR_Guides, that's a third party script (IOW not a part of the LM 14.4)

Library window: close it; quit Moho. restart.

[Stan]

I just checked, MR_Guides works well in 14.4, without any issues.

@Hugging_Bear, what is the Guidelines-Tool?

[Hugging_Bear]

I knew you wouldn't believe me, so I made a very short YouTube video: [youtube]https://youtu.be/xwdbAX5X978[/youtube]

PS: I deleted the Guides-Layer and created a new one. It stopped crashing ... for now.

[hayasidist]

I knew you wouldn't believe me, so I made a very short YouTube video: [youtube]https://youtu.be/xwdbAX5X978[/youtube]

it's not "we don't believe you" - it's "it is a third party tool" -- Mynd tools aren't part of LM's 14.4 package.

[Hugging_Bear]

I knew you wouldn't believe me, so I made a very short YouTube video: [youtube]https://youtu.be/xwdbAX5X978[/youtube]

it's not "we don't believe you" - it's "it is a third party tool" -- Mynd tools aren't part of LM's 14.4 package.

Maybe you can take this as inspiration to create an 'official' Guidelines-Tool for your next update. It's very useful ... I couldn't do my work without it (or at least it would be a lot harder)

[KuzKuz]

Hi, I couldn’t reproduce the crash in Moho 14.4. But I updated the script and added a few extra validations for layer deletion just in case.
https://mohoscripts.com/script/mr_guide ... al-edition

[hayasidist]

Hi, I couldn’t reproduce the crash in Moho 14.4. But I updated the script and added a few extra validations for layer deletion just in case.
https://mohoscripts.com/script/mr_guide ... al-edition

Thanks Eugene... and sorry if this is simply my confusion / my initial guess at what the OP meant by "Guidelines-Tool" -- is mr_guides the same as the Mynd tool (or are they two different things?)

[KuzKuz]

Hi, I couldn’t reproduce the crash in Moho 14.4. But I updated the script and added a few extra validations for layer deletion just in case.
https://mohoscripts.com/script/mr_guide ... al-edition

Thanks Eugene... and sorry if this is simply my confusion / my initial guess at what the OP meant by "Guidelines-Tool" -- is mr_guides the same as the Mynd tool (or are they two different things?)

Yes, MR Guides and the Mynd tool are different scripts.

[hayasidist]

Yes, MR Guides and the Mynd tool are different scripts.

Thanks -- it looks from the OP's video that it's the Mynd tool that is causing the crash -- and that also explains why neither you nor Stan could reproduce the crash with MR_Guides.

My apologies to all for my misleading guess in my initial response.

[kgeetvcartoons]

Hi guys,
after the latest update, Moho 14.4 crashes, whenever I try to use the Guidelines-Tool. Very annoying!
BTW - how do I get rid of the annoying Library window that appears by every start? I mean, how do I keep it from appearing?
One last tip: If it isn't broken - don't fix! Moho 14.3 worked flawless ... now I stumble over the first bug within the first 5 minutes.

I'm having a crashing issue myself. I don't know how to completely get rid of scripts from my Moho. Is there a video explaining this?

[Greenlaw]

Rename your current Custom Content folder; for now, call it Moho 14 OLD. Make an empty folder next to it and call it Moho 14. Then make a second folder at the same level and call it Moho 14 Custom.

When you launch Moho, it will ask you to Choose a content folder. Instead of choosing the renamed folder, choose the folder called Moho 14. Moho will install new content for it, and it will become your 'default' custom content folder. DO NOT CHANGE THIS FOLDER. This will be a backup folder which you can use to test how Moho should work without modification.

Now, from the Help Menu, select Choose Custom Content Folder..., and choose the folder Moho 14 Custom. This will become your new Custom Content Folder, and it will be the folder you will actually customize. (You can actually call this folder anything, so long as it's different from the backup's name.)

Move the scripts in small batches from the OLD folder to your new Custom folder, and run Moho to test them. To speed up the process, you can use the hotkeys Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L to load the new scripts instead of relaunching Moho each time you update the folder. (Don't forget any relevant resource files.)

Once you've updated your new Custom Content Folder and all custom scripts appear to work without issue, you can delete the OLD folder if you like.

I like to keep my content folders organized like this...



The folders designated LGD (for Little Green Dog) are my custom folders, and the rest are my unmodified backups.

Tips: I would save adding the MYND scripts for last, as they are very old tools that haven't been updated in a while. If any tools are incompatible with Moho 14.4, it could be one of them.

I would also reorganize the custom Tools Window Groups. For example, Mult Rush's MR_Guides is not part of the MYND tools, so it doesn't make sense to place it in the MYND Group. The MYND custom groups appear because the file _tool_list.txt is present in the Scripts>Tool folder. Remove this file and make your own Groups. You can make your own custom Tools Window Group layout using Tool Layout in Preferences. Here's how the Tools Window Groups look on my computer after I customized it...



You can also edit the _tools_list.txt using a text editor. This can make it easier to make big changes to the groups at once. But I suggest using Tool Layout first to establish the correct format.

(I'll make a tutorial on this topic; it seems to come up often.)

Good luck!

[Greenlaw]

Another tip: Because space in the Tools Window is limited by screen size, I'll sometimes make additional Custom Content folders for special situations where I need a different tool set. When I want to use any of these 'special' sets, I can choose them using the Choose... command.

Hope this helps.

[hayasidist]

I'm having a crashing issue myself. I don't know how to completely get rid of scripts from my Moho. Is there a video explaining this?

Greenlaw's suggestion will clear out all of your custom stuff such as brushes and key bindings. If you're happy with that, then you'll need to copy these and any other customisations over to your new folder set as necessary.

If it's just scripts you want to clear out then: open your existing custom content folder and make a copy of <your custom content>/Scripts and rename that to (e.g.) ScriptsOLD (and don't create and choose a new top level content folder). Delete the contents of the original Scripts folder then do everything that Greenlaw says about Scripts BUT ...

there are many subfolders in Scripts: Menu, Utility, Tool etc -- and it's not as straightforward as moving (say) stuff from the original Tools to new Tools subfolder -- scripts often rely on files in other Script subfolders.

My personal approach is to make a copy as above and delete scripts in batches from the original Tools subfolder rather than delete all and copy over in batches. (And I too would have the Mynd tools high on the suspect list -- and in case you have any - the even older CC_ scripts should also merit close attention)