Physical Box Shipment

InfoCentral · Post by **InfoCentral** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:31 pm

Does anyone know when the Physical Box is going to be available? I see on the e-Frontier website that it still says "coming soon."

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:52 am

I really don't even know what possible value a "physical box" has.

I haven't bought anything in a box for years. I have boxes of boxes in the basement... from years ago... hate to throw them out... sentimental value I guess.

The last box I got with Photoshop... was v4.0.

I was at a Mac World a few years back and on of the guys at the Animation:Master booth gave me a flat A:M box... because I never had one of the new ones.

I usually absolutely have to have something... uh.. in the middle of the night... on a caffiene buzz... can't wait for a box!

-vern

Patmals · Post by **Patmals** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:58 am

(my 200th post now - YAY!)

I agree.. e frontier do not ship hard copies of their manuals anymore with the boxes. However i think you can buy a copy of the poser manual from them.

Maybe the box is attractive to have . i still have kept all my boxes with the manuals inside however, if there no manual to keep it company then i wouldn't bother paying the extra freight (outside of the US) and the anxious wait for it to arrive.

PixelDust · Post by **PixelDust** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:07 am

IMO, it's not the "physical box" that's so appealing, but the "physical CDs" that come inside it... especially when one does not have broadband access

Patmals · Post by **Patmals** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:53 am

PixelDust wrote:IMO, it's not the "physical box" that's so appealing, but the "physical CDs" that come inside it... especially when one does not have broadband access

Ahh good point, but for someone who doesnt live in the US, the postage alone costs almost the amount of some of the software they offer!

it almost double for the price of anime studio standard ..

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:27 am

... especially when one does not have broadband access...

So... you would wait... two days... or even three days...

.. to get a box with a CD... because... the download may take several hours?

Long time ago... when I had slower bandwidth... I would start a download and go to bed.

Now with the faster access... I don't get nearly as much sleep. It stinks I tell you!

-vern

PixelDust · Post by **PixelDust** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:59 pm

heyvern wrote:
... especially when one does not have broadband access...
So... you would wait... two days... or even three days...

.. to get a box with a CD... because... the download may take several hours?

If I had no other choice, yes. Fortunately, my workplace does have broadband, but others may not be so lucky.

For one thing, my ISP doesn't allow anyone to be connected more than 8 hours at a time. Anime Studio is a ~123 MB file, which is estimated to take 5 hours, 7 minutes at 56K. I have 28.8 K at home, which would be over 10 hours.

So, I would have to use a download manager and try to download it in two sessions, if the manager allows resumable downloads.

Manga Studio is over 1 GB, which would take 47 hours at 56K, and 94 hours at 28.8. So it would take a couple of days anyway.

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:14 am

28.8????

Okay... so... eFrontier should provide a boxed version of a program so everyone who absolutely refuses to get a cheap/free 56k modem can buy it?

Is there some spin off of the Amish that can't use new technology I don't know about?

Oh man... this's... funny... I haven't laughed so hard in ages.

Yes, many download managers allow breaking down a large download. And they are free... (need to save up for that 56k modem.)

You could concievably use the 28.8 modem. It might take a few hours each day for a month but it could be done.

They don't even make computers without a 56k modem do they? My PC is... more than 5 years old... it has a 56k modem in it.

They must cost... $10 by now.

<sigh>

-vern

myles · Post by **myles** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:51 am

Hey Vern,

heyvern wrote:It might take a few hours each day for a month but it could be done.

So... you would wait... a month...

.. to get a download... because... a box with a CD... might take two or three days?

Regards, Myles.

PixelDust · Post by **PixelDust** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:33 am

Thank you, Myles.

No, I have a 56K modem, but because I live in a rural area, the fastest speed it will work at is 28.8. Something about analog-to-digital conversions.

Anyhow, I'm sorry this discussion has gone so far off course. I guess only e-frontier can answer the original question (when will a boxed version be available).

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:19 am

Sorry PixelDust... I came off like an idiot on that one...

A bit strong...

Give me some credit though... if you had said originally the cause of your low speed... I might not have jumped to such a wrong conclusion.

There are a lot of changes in technology that always leave some people behind... I've been hit by this one too. Old computers... no money to buy a new one... not powerful enough to run the new OS... that kind of annoying thing.

Accept my apology.

p.s. I still like the idea of an Amish spin-off comunity that can only use outdated computer technology... Atari computers... 14.4 baud modems... audio cassette storage. So... at least I got something useful out of this.

-vern

Rasheed · Post by **Rasheed** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:27 am

Isn't it possible to go to a friend or relative with a broadband connection, print the download page with serial number on it, download the file and burn it to CD?

wizaerd · Post by **wizaerd** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:08 pm

PixelDust wrote: For one thing, my ISP doesn't allow anyone to be connected more than 8 hours at a time.

You need to to get a different ISP. I have never heard of an ISP that limits the amount of time you can spend online, but if mine tried to force that on me, I'd drop them. Quickly...

Rasheed · Post by **Rasheed** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:16 pm

Or try to organize your community in having broadband access available, e.g. via a satellite link. If they can do such things in rural India and China, they should be able to do something similar in rural America, perhaps with some relief from an aid organisation. I'm perplexed that modern USA lets her rural citizens down big time and leave them with 20th century internet access (i.e. dial-up).

InfoCentral · Post by **InfoCentral** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:57 pm

[quote="wizaerd]You need to to get a different ISP. I have never heard of an ISP that limits the amount of time you can spend online, but if mine tried to force that on me, I'd drop them. Quickly...[/quote]

I remember my dial up ISP would only allow 1 hour sessions. You could reconnet as ofter as you liked but it would disconnet you after 1 hour of continuous connection. At night I think they let you have like 4 hours. Glad that high speed finally arrived in my area!