Need to download Moho again

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:54 pm

Hi,

Been trying to find a place to download Moho before it became the bloated Anime Studio 123MB behemoth.

I need the Mac version.

I have a valid serial #, yet I can't find a place to logon in the new e-frontier site to retrieve what it was. Pff.

if anyone knows the answers to these questions, that'd be a great help. Thanks.

Mike

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:37 pm

I posted this response in the other thread:

Good luck Mikdog.

Fahim gave me a coupon for an update to AS for Mac way back when he still worked for efrontier. I downloaded the installer but it was corrupted... I didn't know it was corrupted. I just assumed the new version was incompatible with the Panther OS. I waited too long to download again and in the meantime the download for the installer was removed from my content paradise account.

They wanted me to PAY a fee to get that link back. Man I got steamed.

Eventually some kind person here sent me a new installer. I had a serial number, I just needed a functional installer that worked.

That is one thing I hope that Smith Micro will do better. Treat the customers like people instead of money bags that you squeeze for extra cash. Charging for re-downloading a corrupted installer file... sheesh.

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:07 pm

Thanks,

Got version from nolan Scott. Ta

Now to see if smith-micro will give me a Mac serial because my PC version doesn't work on the mac version. pff.

Thanks nolan

Demo works cool.

J. Baker · Post by **J. Baker** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:09 am

I thought the Moho serial worked on all three OS's?

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:29 am

The AS serial number is platform specific. The Moho serial number was not.

-vern

J. Baker · Post by **J. Baker** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:38 am

heyvern wrote:The AS serial number is platform specific. The Moho serial number was not.

-vern

That's what I had thought. Then Mikedog should be able to unlock the Mac version if he can unlock the PC version. As I'm guessing he's trying to unlock Moho and not AS.

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:28 pm

Nyaargh!

After much debate, Smith-Micro agreed to let me have a Mac version of AS. I would've been happier with Moho 5.4, but they don't deal with that.

As such, I now have a valid serial for AS, but now have to download the 123MB file which is almost impossible with my connection.

I JUST NEED THE BASIC 10MB MOHO VERSION! I asked numerous times for a serial for Moho but they only have for AS!

Any idea if I'd be able to download an AS PRo version without all the superfluous junk that comes with it? (One of my own animations comes with it, I think. Cool Catz. I was promised full recognition of my work, but I don't think they said anywehre it was my own work. As such, one of my work colleagues found out and was amazed that AS was packaged with characters from our company's local TV show and without any references! Made me look like an idiot for sending them my animation files and character builds. Oh well.)

So, if anyone out there knows where I can get a smaller AS Pro download, that'd be great. I could find my old Moho serial for PC, but it's in another city, tucked away in the inside cover of a diary in storage.

Many thanks,

Mike

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:18 am

Considering all the time you've spent looking for a smaller download you could have downloaded the full version incrementally by now even with a slow connection. Just download a little at a time until you get it. Start it at night and go to bed.

-vern

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:22 am

If only that was the case.

Often I resume a download ten times, only to see it failed to mount the thing.

I'm going to try a download manager. Says it will take 50 hours to download! Yikes!

You can see my reluctance to download 110 MB of stuff that I'll delete as soon as I get it.

To download the Moho 5. demo, I had to try about 5 times, with only the last full download not being a corrupted file.

Rhoel · Post by **Rhoel** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:17 pm

Mikdog wrote:If only that was the case.

Often I resume a download ten times, only to see it failed to mount the thing.

I'm going to try a download manager. Says it will take 50 hours to download! Yikes!

You can see my reluctance to download 110 MB of stuff that I'll delete as soon as I get it.

To download the Moho 5. demo, I had to try about 5 times, with only the last full download not being a corrupted file.

Download managers are the only option really - I am in Cambodia and the connection here is atrocious. DL managers are the only solution - they pick up the missing chunks and rebuild the master file.

But I agree, having to DL 110 megs just to get the engine is just crazy - I pay for every last byte I use here and its expensive.

I have to admit tht hte past year/18 months has been a huge turn off on A/s - the program is fine but the stupid back room politics is going to kill this project: WAKE UP, go look at what happened to Animo, great product, Neanderthals boardroom = no customers. Cambridge Animation needed to move to Ireland just to avoid total collapse. It now languishes in the animation backwaters, with none of its old customers wanting to touch the product.

AS will go the same way unless updates and bug fixes appear REGULARLY - if the existing customer base is annoyed and start turning their backs on the product, you are dead.

If think that many here look back to the open-source argument which took place two years ago. How different the world would have been had Moho gone that route. I feel sorry for Mike because he clearly has stuff ready to go and the pencils are saying no. Must be frustrating for him too.

FCSnow · Post by **FCSnow** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:01 pm

I had a simular problem a few years ago. I wanted to download a huge file with only a dialup connection. It would have taken 25 hours to download and tied up my telephone.

My Solution: I got my nephew, who had a high speed connection, to download the file. He burned that file to a disk and mailed it to me. I installed the program and BINGO it worked.

Just an option you might consider.

FCSnow

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:20 pm

Thanks,

Ulrik was kind enough to let me get a stripped down demo version of AS Pro. Worked like a legend. Put my serial in - awesome. Ulrik, you are a man on a horse. Thank you.

Man...the Moho/AS community is so great. Be a pity if Smith-Micro play the 'big neanderthals behind large boardroom tables' role and milk it while they can.

Matt of Smith-Micro was kind enough to give me a free mac serial given my situation. I had to sign a destruction form thing declaring I won't ever use my previous PC version again. I won't, because my PC hard-disk is fried, and I don't know what my PC serial is.

I emailed him to thank him, given that it's not strictly protocol that they should give me another serial. However, I did stress that the serials should not be platform specific. Cool for them because they make more cash, not cool for us because we lose more cash

However, I guess they need the cash to develop the tool further. Kind of a vicious circle thing.

Anyway, thanks to Smith-Micro for giving me a helping hand, and HUGE thanks to Ulrik for solving my problem of the relatively enormous download.

jahnocli · Post by **jahnocli** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:02 pm

Mikdog wrote:However, I guess they need the cash to develop the tool further.

Do we have any information about their intentions? I haven't seen any...

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:52 pm

- silly comment removed on review -

Mikdog · Post by **Mikdog** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:11 am

my saga continues here, where I discover just how shoddy the Mac OS X version is at rendering out scenes, but awesome at crashing:

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