Mac Standard Keyboard Shortcuts
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Mac Standard Keyboard Shortcuts
I wish that AS would support standard Mac keyboard shortcuts. For example:
Shift-Cmd-S - Save As
Shift-Cmd-Z - Redo
and I suppose
Shift-Cmd-A - Deselect All
would be asking too much...
I come from a Final Cut Pro background, and pretty much all the standard programs on Mac, i.e. iWork, iLife, etc all use these same keyboard shortcuts. And then you try to use a program like Microsoft Word or Anime Studio Pro and it's very time consuming and frustrating that there actually is no keyboard shortcut at all for something that is used as frequently as the "Save As" command! Just reinforces why I switched to Mac. But makes me wonder why I got Anime Studio Pro... (Apple, can't you please just make an animation program? Come 'on, you even made a cell phone!)
If any of you other Macheads can think of any shortcuts to add to this Wishlist, please post them on this discussion.....
And to the makers of ASP, thanks in advance for adding these time-saving shortcuts!
Shift-Cmd-S - Save As
Shift-Cmd-Z - Redo
and I suppose
Shift-Cmd-A - Deselect All
would be asking too much...
I come from a Final Cut Pro background, and pretty much all the standard programs on Mac, i.e. iWork, iLife, etc all use these same keyboard shortcuts. And then you try to use a program like Microsoft Word or Anime Studio Pro and it's very time consuming and frustrating that there actually is no keyboard shortcut at all for something that is used as frequently as the "Save As" command! Just reinforces why I switched to Mac. But makes me wonder why I got Anime Studio Pro... (Apple, can't you please just make an animation program? Come 'on, you even made a cell phone!)
If any of you other Macheads can think of any shortcuts to add to this Wishlist, please post them on this discussion.....
And to the makers of ASP, thanks in advance for adding these time-saving shortcuts!
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- synthsin75
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Yeah, if you specialize in being a Mac user, it's like they say: "A specialist knows more and more about less and less". The same old reason that I haven't been convinced to switch to Mac, the lack of apps.
I think it's funny that a Mac user would complain about a Microsoft program not behaving like Mac programs.
Not trying to start an OS debate, but I find it a bit offensive to ask for a feature while wishing for some completely different animation program to come along. If you can't be bothered to get use to the differing hotkeys, why do you even bother with anything but Mac apps?
I'm not sure that most cross-platform software is really meant to live up to the expectations of the fan boys.
Vern, feel free to straighten me out if I'm a bit out of line here, as I know you are a pretty unbiased Mac/Windows person.
I think it's funny that a Mac user would complain about a Microsoft program not behaving like Mac programs.
Not trying to start an OS debate, but I find it a bit offensive to ask for a feature while wishing for some completely different animation program to come along. If you can't be bothered to get use to the differing hotkeys, why do you even bother with anything but Mac apps?
I'm not sure that most cross-platform software is really meant to live up to the expectations of the fan boys.
Vern, feel free to straighten me out if I'm a bit out of line here, as I know you are a pretty unbiased Mac/Windows person.

The key commands for AS on Mac and Win are identical.
Most cross platform apps use the built OS development tools to create the GUI. So all the key shortcuts are the same or at least conform to that platform.
Anime Studio is completely different. Mike Clifton developed his own custom GUI interface that has nothing to do with specific OS libraries. This makes it much easier for him to develop for multiple OS's. He doesn't have to make as many changes to compile for Mac, Win, or Linux.
Because of this, there is no built in save as shortcut, or redo etc etc. It is why the palettes and tools are the EXACTLY the same on any platform but "different" form other programs. I too wish AS had these consistent key commands but I understand why it doesn't.
Hopefully someday it will. Until then I just make do.
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As to the other things you mention Synth, not sure I understand your point. The apps available on the mac as far as what I need are the same as the PC. All the major applications, even open source programs are exactly the same for PC and Win and the controls are the same.
The "save as" key command or the "redo" command... does windows have these for those other apps or is it part of the OS? I don't know. Generally the developers working on a specific OS will use the libraries for that platform for the GUI.
-vern
Most cross platform apps use the built OS development tools to create the GUI. So all the key shortcuts are the same or at least conform to that platform.
Anime Studio is completely different. Mike Clifton developed his own custom GUI interface that has nothing to do with specific OS libraries. This makes it much easier for him to develop for multiple OS's. He doesn't have to make as many changes to compile for Mac, Win, or Linux.
Because of this, there is no built in save as shortcut, or redo etc etc. It is why the palettes and tools are the EXACTLY the same on any platform but "different" form other programs. I too wish AS had these consistent key commands but I understand why it doesn't.
Hopefully someday it will. Until then I just make do.
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As to the other things you mention Synth, not sure I understand your point. The apps available on the mac as far as what I need are the same as the PC. All the major applications, even open source programs are exactly the same for PC and Win and the controls are the same.
The "save as" key command or the "redo" command... does windows have these for those other apps or is it part of the OS? I don't know. Generally the developers working on a specific OS will use the libraries for that platform for the GUI.
-vern
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Yeah I could be wrong. But it always seems harder to find stuff for Mac. Maybe it's just not advertised as well. I think I've just read about too much Mac OS troubles. Compatibility with this version and that version and this and that chipset.
Windows is far from perfect, believe me (why else would I consider switching), but it still seems like developers favor it.
Windows is far from perfect, believe me (why else would I consider switching), but it still seems like developers favor it.
Undo in most apps is ctrl z, in Painter its ctrl y, I can't remember the last time I cared, you'll get used to it.
Some programs just use there own logic, like animation master, and blender sometimes it makes more sense AM, sometimes it doesn't BLENDER.
I understand the initial inconvenience but think about it this way, you are getting the best of both worlds .
Some programs just use there own logic, like animation master, and blender sometimes it makes more sense AM, sometimes it doesn't BLENDER.
I understand the initial inconvenience but think about it this way, you are getting the best of both worlds .

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If you use the Keyboard and Mouse pane in System Preferences, you can add your own shortcuts to any application. For example:
Keyboard and Mouse Preferences Pane
Save As...
Redo
Keyboard and Mouse Preferences Pane
Save As...
Redo
Thanks a lot for this, I've been using mac for 20 years and I didn't know about this...great feature!NetGenSuperstar wrote:If you use the Keyboard and Mouse pane in System Preferences, you can add your own shortcuts to any application. For example:
Keyboard and Mouse Preferences Pane
Save As...
Redo
This has inspired me to create a "open recent file" button!!!!
Any tool can store preferences. I can store the path to the last 5 or 10 or so paths to recently opened files. Hit the button, choose the file!!!!!!!
WoooooHooooooo!!!!
p.s. You can see why scripting is so fantastic. If the tool isn't there just make one!
-vern
Any tool can store preferences. I can store the path to the last 5 or 10 or so paths to recently opened files. Hit the button, choose the file!!!!!!!
WoooooHooooooo!!!!
p.s. You can see why scripting is so fantastic. If the tool isn't there just make one!
-vern
Fantastic!! This is what I have been waiting for, "open recent file", how did you do that Vern?heyvern wrote:This has inspired me to create a "open recent file" button!!!!
Any tool can store preferences. I can store the path to the last 5 or 10 or so paths to recently opened files. Hit the button, choose the file!!!!!!!
WoooooHooooooo!!!!
p.s. You can see why scripting is so fantastic. If the tool isn't there just make one!
-vern
Haven't done it yet but it should be a piece of cake.
When a file is opened the path to that file is available very easily. When the file is saved the preference of this new button script will save the path of the file to its own preferences stored in AS.
When you click this button a dialog will pop up with the last few files opened by AS listed. You would click on one and it will open it using the path to that file stored in the preferences.
The only tricky part is how to save more than one file in the preferences. I would need to create variables that increment a set amount. I may start with just opening the last file rather than a list until I figure this out. that might be harder than I think.
-vern
When a file is opened the path to that file is available very easily. When the file is saved the preference of this new button script will save the path of the file to its own preferences stored in AS.
When you click this button a dialog will pop up with the last few files opened by AS listed. You would click on one and it will open it using the path to that file stored in the preferences.
The only tricky part is how to save more than one file in the preferences. I would need to create variables that increment a set amount. I may start with just opening the last file rather than a list until I figure this out. that might be harder than I think.
-vern
Hello NetGenSuperstar!
I have succesfully applied custom shortcuts to AS as you said, great! I tried to apply shorts for the Import / Image as well, but I can't get it to work, the "image" is on a submeny and maybe it will not work, I don't know. Do you know if it's able to get it to work, and what you have to write when it's in a sub meny? "Import / Image.....
I have succesfully applied custom shortcuts to AS as you said, great! I tried to apply shorts for the Import / Image as well, but I can't get it to work, the "image" is on a submeny and maybe it will not work, I don't know. Do you know if it's able to get it to work, and what you have to write when it's in a sub meny? "Import / Image.....
It works for me. Make sure you spell "Image..." correctly.ulrik wrote:I tried to apply shorts for the Import / Image as well, but I can't get it to work, the "image" is on a submeny and maybe it will not work, I don't know. Do you know if it's able to get it to work, and what you have to write when it's in a sub meny? "Import / Image.....

It is an uppercase I "Image...". Then it works. I made the same mistake testing this out.
All you need is the exact name. So in the shortcut it would just be...
Image...
I don't know what happens if there are multiple sub menus in other menus with the same name.
p.s. I just added "Select None". That one I use ALL THE FREAKING TIME!
-vern
Hi Vern! How did you write in osx system preferences, "Import ? Image.."heyvern wrote:It works for me. Make sure you spell "Image..." correctly.ulrik wrote:I tried to apply shorts for the Import / Image as well, but I can't get it to work, the "image" is on a submeny and maybe it will not work, I don't know. Do you know if it's able to get it to work, and what you have to write when it's in a sub meny? "Import / Image.....
It is an uppercase I "Image...". Then it works. I made the same mistake testing this out.
All you need is the exact name. So in the shortcut it would just be...
Image...
I don't know what happens if there are multiple sub menus in other menus with the same name.
p.s. I just added "Select None". That one I use ALL THE FREAKING TIME!
-vern
what did you have between the 2 words?