editing audio in moho

[wr3yth]

hello.
is it possible to edit audio in moho?
like lowering db, and cutting and etc.

[Greenlaw]

It's very limited. I think keyframing the volume is about all you get.

Audio in Moho is mainly useful for timing and lipsync reference. For proper mixing with the animation, you're better off doing that in a video editor.

What I usually do is I'll create my animatic in the editor and mix a temp audio track there. Next, I'll export the audio for the range of each scene in the animatic, and use these audio clips as the basis for each Moho 'scene' project. Then, after replacing the animatic clips in the editor with the final animations from Moho, I'll do a proper mix of the audio for whole project in the editor.

[chucky]

Yes you can change volume.
You can edit timing by using layer visibility and duplicates then change the timing of the duplicate with a new ' visible' selection of audio and shift it in the sequencer.
Useful for on the time retiming of dialogue.

BTW it's best to turn off the auto panning in the layer properties.

[NealF]

Can you chop up and move around the audio?
If not, I'll have to do it in my audio pgm.

[slowtiger]

You can move around the audio, but not cut anything.

[Greenlaw]

Can you chop up and move around the audio?
If not, I'll have to do it in my audio pgm.

No, not directly anyway. Moho's audio support is pretty basic. You can import short clips and move them in Sequencer, and the volume for each clip is edited by keyframing the level in Channels.

For anything more sophisticated (i.e., proper mixing tools, dozens of tracks, music, etc), you're better off using a video editing program. I do most of my editing and mixing in Vegas Pro. DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere are other good choices.

If you don't already have a video editor you like, I think BMD still offers a free version of Resolve. If not, the paid version is incredibly powerful for its price. I've been using Vegas for many years, but I'm thinking of trying Resolve for my next project.

My typical workflow is to cut my animatic in Vegas, export a separate clip for each scene, and import a scene clip to Moho as reference footage for the layout and timing. Then, after I export my final animated scene from Moho, I can replace or overcut the animatic scene in Vegas. By having the audio in the editor from beginning to end, everything stays in sync throughout the process.

[Daxel]

I also thought you couldn't cut audio but the other day I saw this video by Modelman Animation and it explains audio in moho in depth, many things I didn't know, like yeah you can cut audio and much more. It's still not the most comfortable workflow so I would only use it in lack of a better option. The cutting part starts here. The video is long but you can check the timestamps to see all the things he explains.

https://youtu.be/OrASKj05Wsg?si=8tm9QNTcyUKkaRpR&t=3849

[Panha]

hello.
is it possible to edit audio in moho?
like lowering db, and cutting and etc.

Since Moho is an animation software, editing audio is limited. However, If you want to cut out where the sound should be silent, you can keyframing the audio value to be completely silent or adjust the value.

[SimplSam]

... https://youtu.be/OrASKj05Wsg?si=8tm9QNTcyUKkaRpR&t=3849

I think I would describe that process as painful. Far better to precut your audio in something like Audacity.

[Greenlaw]

Coincidentally, I had to import multiple audio clips to a Moho project for a production we're releasing either this week or next. As mentioned earlier, I normally edit my Moho animations in a video editor, but in this situation, I wanted to stay inside Moho as much as possible. The process went more smoothly than I expected.

For trimming audio clips, though, yes, I would do that in an audio editor like SimplSam suggested. As a matter of fact, even with my 'Moho-only' goal, I did exactly that. I used Adobe Audition to trim my clips, but any audio editor will do. SimplSam mentioned using Audacity...that's a good one, and it's free too!

One thing I wished Moho could do was export an audio-only file. Basically, I wanted to flatten the tracks into one track and import it to another project file, but I was surprised this wasn't an option. I wound up using a movie file with an empty video track, which worked but it wasn't ideal.

[teienkawi]

Coincidentally, I had to import multiple audio clips to a Moho project for a production we're releasing either this week or next. As mentioned earlier, I normally edit my Moho animations in a video editor, but in this situation, I wanted to stay inside Moho as much as possible. The process went more smoothly than I expected.

For trimming audio clips, though, yes, I would do that in an audio editor like SimplSam suggested. As a matter of fact, even with my 'Moho-only' goal, I did exactly that. I used Adobe Audition to trim my clips, but any audio editor will do. SimplSam mentioned using Audacity...that's a good one, and it's free too!

One thing I wished Moho could do was export an audio-only file. Basically, I wanted to flatten the tracks into one track and import it to another project file, but I was surprised this wasn't an option. I wound up using a movie file with an empty video track, which worked but it wasn't ideal.

i found n the file menu in the pop out menu of export at the bottom is a export soundtrack option. i had never used it before so i dont know how well it keeps track of the audio placement/timing but it might be worth checking out.

[Greenlaw]

Whaaa???

Once again, teienkawi comes to my rescue with a 'hidden' feature! Thanks, man! I'll try this out tonight.

[Greenlaw]

Tested and it works! I imported two audio clips and overlapped them in the middle. Then I trimmed the playback range to chop off part the tail and head of the full frame range. After using the Export Soundtrack command, I imported the rendered .wav file.

The result: a trimmed audio clip with the two clips overlapping in the middle. Exactly what I wanted!

Sweet! This may solve a problem for a certain workflow I wanted to demonstrate using only Moho.

Thanks again for your suggestion, teienkawi.

[teienkawi]

Tested and it works! I imported two audio clips and overlapped them in the middle. Then I trimmed the playback range to chop off part the tail and head of the full frame range. After using the Export Soundtrack command, I imported the rendered .wav file.

The result: a trimmed audio clip with the two clips overlapping in the middle. Exactly what I wanted!

Sweet! This may solve a problem for a certain workflow I wanted to demonstrate using only Moho.

Thanks again for your suggestion, teienkawi.

awesome! thank you to. i wouldnt of found/noticed it without your comment about being able to do something like it. i had used the exporting blank file idea once and didnt like having to open another program to extrat the audio and re import it in the project so i gave it a deeper look im glad it works

[Greenlaw]

Sooo...for anyone still interested in using Moho as an audio editor, set your playback range around the part you want trimmed, and then use the Export Soundtrack command. The command respects the range you set on the timeline.

To trim the track, use Alt+Click on the timeline to set the start, and Alt+Right Click the set the end. You'll need to repeat this for each clip.

When you're done exporting the clips, import them into a new project, and you can slide them around as desired.

Not too bad, really.

Export Soundtrack appears to use the following settings:

.wav
Stereo
PCM uncompressed
16-bit
44100 Hz

You can't adjust these settings but this is fine for small indie productions.

For anything more sophisticated, you should use Audacity, Audition, or another dedicated audio program.