Rotating OBJ on all three axis

[furryhell]

Hey guys

I was searching for an answer on the web but somehow found zero results so either people don't really work with 3D in moho, or I'm stupid, anyway...

Is it possible to rotate an obj around all three axis (x,y,z)?

Because no matter what only x and y works with layer rotation, which makes sense since a 2d image can only rotate on two directions, but is it possible to do it on the z axis somehow other than rotating the camera (which is bad because it ruins the whole scene especially if you work with both 2d and 3d or at least it generates a lot of extra work) ?


Thank you in advance

[SimplSam]

There is a tool called "Rotate Layer XY", it is 3 buttons to the right of the "Layer Transform" tool. This allows you to rotate a Layer / 3D object about the other 2 axis.

For the record 2D images in Moho normally rotate about the Z-Axis, which is Red arrow in your image. X-Axis is Blue and Y-Axis Green.

[Maestral]

I believe OP figured rotation on those 2 where Z, the red axis in his depiction, is available on the Layer transform tool / further on the right - Position xyz | Scale xyz | Angle.
Could be inconvenient but all 3 are, in fact, available.

Mind the position of the origin point.
By default, it's either inherited from the model or by Moho, placed in the center of the layer. Depends on your settings but that would determine the center of rotation.

[SimplSam]

Yeah - you are probably right. I did make an update ages ago to the Layer Transform tool to have all 3 rotations on the same tool, but then I went crazy with some other mods and messed things up.

[Greenlaw]

For this sort of thing in a 3D program I often animate rotations on separate parent nulls or locaters. This makes it easier to manage the direction and velocity of each rotational axis, and it avoids the issue of gimbal lock.

Even though Moho does not support null objects, I think you can do the same by nesting the object into multiple groups and rotating each group on a single and different axis. If you create smart bone actions for each group layer, you should have a lot of precise control for the animation.

Let me know if this works for your as I don't think I tried this in Moho myself.

[slowtiger]

I can rotate a layer around all 3 axis. If it's a group layer, it will faithfully rotate everything inside.

[furryhell]

Thanks for the help guys,

Somehow the first time I try to rotate it with the transform tool it changed perspective and I got confused, but you were right it works now, the way it should escpecially with bones, however I noticed something not sure if it's intended or a bug but when I move my obj around the middle point of the camera view it slightly changes the perspective, like:





Can I do something against it? (I tried making bones, grouping and other methods but all has this same effect. Like it rotates around the middle of the camera view as there would be a pivot point there

[synthsin75]

Make sure the layers have the same z-depth using orbit view tool.