Has anyone created a PAL broadcast safe colour pallette for Anime Studio?
There is one for NTSC but not for PAL. Would it be safe to use the NTSC pallette for PAL?
D.K
Broadcast Safe Colour Pallette
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Farbklecks
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Sorry, a stupid idea...
but a practical one...
Burn your animation or your test on a DVD.
Watch it on a TV set and you can see if it works.
(it will work)
And if your client is freaking out, - sorry.
I had never problems, I made some small slide shows of DVD cover for some trade fair's, and there was never a protest because of the colours.
So I think the colour you can see on your monitor should be nearly the same on a TV.
but a practical one...
Burn your animation or your test on a DVD.
Watch it on a TV set and you can see if it works.
(it will work)
And if your client is freaking out, - sorry.
I had never problems, I made some small slide shows of DVD cover for some trade fair's, and there was never a protest because of the colours.
So I think the colour you can see on your monitor should be nearly the same on a TV.
Thanks Farb. This is amazing, some of the stories I could tell you about the crap I've been put through out here in Australia by the local TV networks makes me wonder why I am still interested in doing animation for Television. The last TVC I made I had one station accusing me of red bleeding colours ....fact was, there was one little blob of red in the whole TVC that lasted 1/2 a second. They told me they had to professionally post it and it would cost me $500 for their production time. They also accused me of making animation that went outside the safe zone!!! and refused to broadcast the TVC till they fixed it.
No kidding!!!
Fortunately I armed my client with all the facts and he walked into their office and pulled his entire airtime schedule off their network. It cost them thousands of dollars for being arseholes. What a great moment that was for me after years of putting up with their crap
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Oh...and both competitor networks were happy to broadcast the TVC without blinking an eyelid. One even wanted it supplied on mini Digital tape!!!
D.K
No kidding!!!
Fortunately I armed my client with all the facts and he walked into their office and pulled his entire airtime schedule off their network. It cost them thousands of dollars for being arseholes. What a great moment that was for me after years of putting up with their crap
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Oh...and both competitor networks were happy to broadcast the TVC without blinking an eyelid. One even wanted it supplied on mini Digital tape!!!
D.K
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Hi DK
I think the after-effects filter is pretty identical to the Premier one.
Try fiddling around with the settings. It changes how the filter messes with your colours. I think I use saturation.
If I know a job is going to TV I run my colour models and set-ups through the filter and tweak my colours accordingly.
I'm doing print work at the moment and that is just as bad. Hey we're in the 21st century - why can't we work while seeing how it's going to end up?
and while we're at it where is my silver jump-suit and hover car!
I think the after-effects filter is pretty identical to the Premier one.
Try fiddling around with the settings. It changes how the filter messes with your colours. I think I use saturation.
If I know a job is going to TV I run my colour models and set-ups through the filter and tweak my colours accordingly.
I'm doing print work at the moment and that is just as bad. Hey we're in the 21st century - why can't we work while seeing how it's going to end up?
and while we're at it where is my silver jump-suit and hover car!
I don't even know which TV standard they use in Australia, but I assumed they had their equipment up to date with the rest of the world. To repeat myself: check with the local stations, or better, with some post production facility.
This is plainly ridiculous. The "safe zone" refers to titles or any essential information only, which should appear inside the borders of the "safe zone" because otherwise it might not show up on old or badly adjusted TV sets. It was never meant to prohibit any animation outside of it.They also accused me of making animation that went outside the safe zone!!!
The "safe zone" is a pain in the arse!
I had to redo like 10 completed rendered segments because a characters head was cut off slightly when I didn't pay attention to the darn safe zone. I am so use to rendering for online presentation I always forget about television.
I keep that safe zone turned on all the time in AS now.
You know... the character got part of his head cut off because he wasn't in the "safe zone"... seems to be a very appropriate name.
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I had to redo like 10 completed rendered segments because a characters head was cut off slightly when I didn't pay attention to the darn safe zone. I am so use to rendering for online presentation I always forget about television.
I keep that safe zone turned on all the time in AS now.
You know... the character got part of his head cut off because he wasn't in the "safe zone"... seems to be a very appropriate name.
-vern
Well...I thought I would keep you all updated in case anyone reading is interested in this process of getting Animation on TV.
I was contacted today by an official Tech from FreeTV (Australias Televisual regulatory body). He informed me that if I was making animation for television via a computer that I am required to invest AU$5000.00 in a video waveform monitor and a vector scope to make sure all my colours and luminace etc meet their strict broadcast standards. This guy was seriously giving me the "you are entering a professionals area only" lecture. He also informed me that he was concerned at the amount of people who are getting into the television area who only have a PC and don't have proper qualifications ( or imho, lots of money to buy very expensive equipment).
Feeling like a 40 year old schoolkid and breaking out in a heavy nervous sweat, i decided to take Slowtigers advice and contact my post production facility. I spoke to a really helpfull young lady who assured me that all I had to do was pay $50.00 extra and she would run my animation, supplied in uncompressed Quicktime format, through thier legalizer and that it was no big deal at all. They do it all the time.
So....I decided to give this Tech guy a call back and give him the good news. His reply...."Humph! I'd like to see this magic legalizer box!".
That made my day
Cheers
D.K
I was contacted today by an official Tech from FreeTV (Australias Televisual regulatory body). He informed me that if I was making animation for television via a computer that I am required to invest AU$5000.00 in a video waveform monitor and a vector scope to make sure all my colours and luminace etc meet their strict broadcast standards. This guy was seriously giving me the "you are entering a professionals area only" lecture. He also informed me that he was concerned at the amount of people who are getting into the television area who only have a PC and don't have proper qualifications ( or imho, lots of money to buy very expensive equipment).
Feeling like a 40 year old schoolkid and breaking out in a heavy nervous sweat, i decided to take Slowtigers advice and contact my post production facility. I spoke to a really helpfull young lady who assured me that all I had to do was pay $50.00 extra and she would run my animation, supplied in uncompressed Quicktime format, through thier legalizer and that it was no big deal at all. They do it all the time.
So....I decided to give this Tech guy a call back and give him the good news. His reply...."Humph! I'd like to see this magic legalizer box!".
That made my day
Cheers
D.K
*laugh*
Wasn't this mentioned in that other thread about toonboom? Those who paid $Bigbucks for anything will never admit that something $cheap does the job as well - or better ...
Of course there's a grain of truth in there. A video waveform monitor is a useful tool, but it belongs into a TV station or a postpro facility. There's no need to buy one if you can as well rent the same service at your postpro facility - that's why they have one, no matter if it's old analogue circuitry or a modern video editor plugin. It's no "magic legalizer box" but just a service you and everybody else can rent.
That "official Tech guy" suffers from "pro's disease". He can't cope with the fact that TV isn't that old one-to-many medium anymore, that the TV station doesn't control the content (via sometimes absurd technical requirements) as exclusively as it did 10 years ago. Don't worry, he'll adapt, or he'll die before he does. Extincts himself.
Wasn't this mentioned in that other thread about toonboom? Those who paid $Bigbucks for anything will never admit that something $cheap does the job as well - or better ...
Of course there's a grain of truth in there. A video waveform monitor is a useful tool, but it belongs into a TV station or a postpro facility. There's no need to buy one if you can as well rent the same service at your postpro facility - that's why they have one, no matter if it's old analogue circuitry or a modern video editor plugin. It's no "magic legalizer box" but just a service you and everybody else can rent.
That "official Tech guy" suffers from "pro's disease". He can't cope with the fact that TV isn't that old one-to-many medium anymore, that the TV station doesn't control the content (via sometimes absurd technical requirements) as exclusively as it did 10 years ago. Don't worry, he'll adapt, or he'll die before he does. Extincts himself.