Lets say I have a 30 second cartoon. The first scene is 15 secs and the second scene is 15 secs.
How do I change from one scene to the next? Ive animated everything in the first scene, then at the 15 second scene switch-over I want to erase everything from the first scene and start from scratch on a new scene - all within the same cartoon / project. Is this possible? Or do I have to create a new project for the second scene, and then use a movie editor to "patch" both scenes together?
One Cartoon But With Different Scenes
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That's a very common question and the common answer is indeed make two projects, render and combine later. There are free editors/joiners so that's not the problem.
But perhaps you just hate using several programs. In that case you could set up both your scenes in one project. Depending on the complexity you will make it difficult for yourself though... To keep it reasonably workable I'd say create two "stages" in space. On one stage you create one animation and on a second stage, located somewhere else in the project space you create the other one. Let's say at a 180 degree angle opposite of each other, so you just turn the camera 180 degrees from frame 375 to 376 and "cut" to the other stage.
That said, save yourself some trouble and create two animations. 15 seconds already sounds long to me for one project, I usually break it up for every scene/shot so I can edit it just like a movie later.
Good luck,
Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com
But perhaps you just hate using several programs. In that case you could set up both your scenes in one project. Depending on the complexity you will make it difficult for yourself though... To keep it reasonably workable I'd say create two "stages" in space. On one stage you create one animation and on a second stage, located somewhere else in the project space you create the other one. Let's say at a 180 degree angle opposite of each other, so you just turn the camera 180 degrees from frame 375 to 376 and "cut" to the other stage.
That said, save yourself some trouble and create two animations. 15 seconds already sounds long to me for one project, I usually break it up for every scene/shot so I can edit it just like a movie later.
Good luck,
Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com
Thankyou for the quick reply 
Yes I'll go with 2 different projects and join them later. Your suggestion of turning the camera is really creative - I would have never thought of that. Im just starting out using Moho and just from reading this forum Im amazed how creative techniques are used in animation and that Moho supports this. Thanks 
Yes I'll go with 2 different projects and join them later. Your suggestion of turning the camera is really creative - I would have never thought of that. Im just starting out using Moho and just from reading this forum Im amazed how creative techniques are used in animation and that Moho supports this. Thanks Heh, that's a clever solution. I'd just put everything from one scene into one group layer, then everything from the other scene into another group layer, then just switch between them using layer visibility on the two group layers.nobudget wrote:I'd say create two "stages" in space. On one stage you create one animation and on a second stage, located somewhere else in the project space you create the other one. Let's say at a 180 degree angle opposite of each other, so you just turn the camera 180 degrees from frame 375 to 376 and "cut" to the other stage.
However, I agree, 2 animations and a video editor is probably a better solution. By rendering to Quicktime or similar you also get the full range of Moho's effects and features. If you really need it in SWF later, you can use one of the animation to SWF converters/wrappers.
Regards, Myles.
And I would ask, is it a change between entirely diffent scenes, or just a different shot of the same scene. Say for example, between a long shot and a close up. That is entirely possible to handle inside Moho, there are a few threads on it in the forum if you look.
And I agree, the 180 deg. turn is a pretty novel way of doing it. Mad props. But to more specific, make sure that the keyframe type, as in NoBudget's example, is "Step" for the camera between frames 275 and 276. If the keyframe type is set to Smooth, or Ease-In, or anything else, the camera will flow to that position, and not give you a proper cut.
--Brian
And I agree, the 180 deg. turn is a pretty novel way of doing it. Mad props. But to more specific, make sure that the keyframe type, as in NoBudget's example, is "Step" for the camera between frames 275 and 276. If the keyframe type is set to Smooth, or Ease-In, or anything else, the camera will flow to that position, and not give you a proper cut.
--Brian
Last edited by 7feet on Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:37 am, edited 2 times in total.
""Step" for the camera between frames 275 and 276."
Not much tweening room inbetween 275 and 276 now is there? But thanks for the addition anyway. As Myles said the group visibility is another workable method.
Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com
Not much tweening room inbetween 275 and 276 now is there? But thanks for the addition anyway. As Myles said the group visibility is another workable method.
Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com
Oh wait, I didn't see the "as in" comment in your first post... I thought you meant switching interpolation to step in my example while you meant in other cases...
For those who are losing comprehension fast, and I don't blame you, there are two ways of having a camera (or any keyframe) move without automatic inbetweening, one is in my example, just put two keyframes right next to eacht other, OR change the interpolation to step (right-click on keyframe to see the different interpolation types).
I'm so used to contradicting people I get confused when someone actually agrees with me...
Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com
For those who are losing comprehension fast, and I don't blame you, there are two ways of having a camera (or any keyframe) move without automatic inbetweening, one is in my example, just put two keyframes right next to eacht other, OR change the interpolation to step (right-click on keyframe to see the different interpolation types).
I'm so used to contradicting people I get confused when someone actually agrees with me...
Reindert.
www.nobudgetvideo.com
Thanks ...
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Midhun.
I had the same question and it is soo well answered here !!
Thanks guys ....
Midhun.
On the topic of free editors....
I am going to introduce you to another forum over at TheForce.net. It is a forum intended for discussion for Star Wars Fanfilms, however, there is a really good thread on a whole bunch of free programs.... amaong this list are a few very good FREE editors.... take a look.... You'll find some of the other free software helpful as well....
http://boards.theforce.net/Fan_Films/b10015/12477745/p1
People have posted a bunch of programs, they explain each one. Just find a video editor.
I am going to introduce you to another forum over at TheForce.net. It is a forum intended for discussion for Star Wars Fanfilms, however, there is a really good thread on a whole bunch of free programs.... amaong this list are a few very good FREE editors.... take a look.... You'll find some of the other free software helpful as well....
http://boards.theforce.net/Fan_Films/b10015/12477745/p1
People have posted a bunch of programs, they explain each one. Just find a video editor.
What is that?