Cant Get Shape To Fill

tomfommber · Post by **tomfommber** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:52 pm

Ok I have an existing complex shape (a torso to be exact) that is already filled. I am trying to attach a shape to it (so that the 2 shapes will share one side). They attach (weld) to one another just fine but for some reason I can not get the second shape to be recognized as a shape so that I can fill it. When I use the Create Shape tool on it (the second shape) all that highlites is the series of lines not associated with my original torso shape. What am I doing wrong?

Genete · Post by **Genete** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:59 pm

It could be several reasons. Maybe the shape is impossible or it is a non closed shape.
post the anme file and then we could help you.
-G

tomfommber · Post by **tomfommber** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:10 pm

ok, here it is. no laughing!

http://www.mediafire.com/?1bzq2xt1xbx

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:56 pm

Can you give us a clue where on that file the problem is?

-vern

tomfommber · Post by **tomfommber** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:13 pm

heyvern wrote:Can you give us a clue where on that file the problem is?

-vern

OK, i am trying to make a shadow on the left side of the torso. I have tried to create a shape that reaches from the middle of the lower rib cage, to just above the hip bone. createing new file. will post in 10 minutes.

tomfommber · Post by **tomfommber** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:16 pm

I know there is something that I am misssing. I just cant figure out what.

new file (the problem area is circled)

http://www.mediafire.com/?bnppxxvxemz

tomfommber · Post by **tomfommber** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:20 pm

i have been through the tuts twice. nothing.

funksmaname · Post by **funksmaname** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:25 pm

with the 'create shape' tool, select the inner line, then shift+click the POINTS in between to complete the shape... then you can fill it (press space)

alternatively, get fazeks tool updats (scripting forums) - with that you can just click the inner line, then the outer line...

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edit: p.s. you can edit your posts on the top left of a post so you dont have to post 3 times

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heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:29 pm

Sorry I can't seem to see the problem.

I selected the points indicated and made a shape fine. Make sure you only select the points that are part of the shape.

If you get just ONE single extra point the shape won't fill. You only want the points selected that make up the closed shape of that area.

-vern

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:32 pm

AHA!

You are only selecting the inner points of that shape. When I select the shape using fazek's select points tool it selects the shape AND the points it is made from.

According to that only the line on the inside is part of the shape. You need all the points of the fill shape you want to create selected... even if they are part of another shape.

-vern

tomfommber · Post by **tomfommber** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:34 pm

funksmaname wrote:with the 'create shape' tool, select the inner line, then shift+click the POINTS in between to complete the shape... then you can fill it (press space)

alternatively, get fazeks tool updats (scripting forums) - with that you can just click the inner line, then the outer line...

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edit: p.s. you can edit your posts on the top left of a post so you dont have to post 3 times

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BOOYA! thanks! worked like a frackin charm!

funksmaname · Post by **funksmaname** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:41 pm

actually, despite secretly celebrating that i beat Hayvern to the punch, i have to admit he's right... with Fazeks tool you only need to click inside the shape.

Damn you vern.

Genete · Post by **Genete** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:36 am

funksmaname wrote:...with Fazeks tool you only need to click inside the shape.

Beware of indiscriminate use of fazek's create shape in that way. It uses an algorithm to search a fillable shape all around the layer and can have some troubles is the mesh is too complex.
I have had sometimes a non end loop with this tool and finally I have to force close AS on the brute force....
SO DON'T CLICK FAR OUTSIDE A CLOSED REGION OR YOU 'LL EXPERIENCE ODD THINGS.

funksmaname · Post by **funksmaname** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:46 am

i tend to click the boundry lines out of habbit - i think its faster as well probably due to the search algorithm you mentioned

heyvern · Post by **heyvern** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:21 pm

I never had any trouble with the shape creation tool. I don't actually click "inside" the shape to select the points.

I always click the lines around the shape.

However, I use the select points tool on an EXISTING shape to select the points of a shape.

This is a FANTASTIC FEATURE of Fazek's select points tool. Imagine you have a shape mixed in with a bunch of points... scattered about, it could be very difficult to select JUST the points of a filled shape.

Clicking in the existing shape with the select points tool selects the points that are part of that shape. This comes in very handy.

It is for me like having a special type of "group select" tool.

-vern