Trampoline Exercise

[RATHAHONNI]

Here is my take of a girl on a trampoline,it almost drove me crazy.
I know the speed needs work and many other things but here is my offering of my 2nd try. Rathahonni


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_BFBKYIG1A

[funksmaname]

some of the body movements are pretty good - but i really reccomend you go back to basics to understand timing with the most basic of tools (i.e. the old favourate, a bouncing ball - and I don't mean your last bouncing ball video - a single bouncing ball) - forget the music for now, just practice getting realistic weight/gravity/movement/speed into a simple (?) thing like a bouncing ball before you tackle more complext things (like 12 bouncing balls lol, or someone on a trampoline)

Think of the forces in action when the weight of someone goes on a trampoline... currently it's a little bit random

Best of luck!

[RATHAHONNI]

Thanks for the feedback,just crawling before trying to walk.

[funksmaname]

i think you got that backwards you're walking before trying to crawl

[RATHAHONNI]

Actually this is a cartoon,not meant to duplicate reality,if i wanted reality i would have used my video camera,it would have been a lot easier.
As i stated on the description of the video this is an "EXERCISE" I'm just familiarizing myself with the tools and putting something together.
In comparison to some things i see on You Tube,i'm not disappointed in my attempt.My end goal is to produce some Language tutorials using flat cartoon type characters,hopefully not anything so difficult as a person on a trampoline.
I'm an older man and this software is amazing,even back to to the time i was u'r age it would have been impossible to do these things at home.
I envy u young people and the tools u have to work with and more coming,only problem is it's created an information overload and no matter how good u get,technically,the most important thing is having the creative mind and ability to get your ideas across to others.I appreciate your input and thanks for watching my humble attempt. Rathahonni :)

[funksmaname]

I'm sorry if you found my comment offensive or condescending - the point of exercise is to improve right? I just wanted to point out what I thought was wrong, I really appreciate the 'new technology' factor - but I was trying to point out some fundamental animation mindset, rather than anything tool specific... I've also seen many worse efforts and having fun and practicing is the most important thing - i was just trying to nudge in the right direction.

Keep at it! I would just exercise the basics before jumping on to trampolines (pun intended)

All the best.

[sbtamu]

RATH,

Here is something I tried today after reading your post here. The ball could of been more realistic but I have never been one to really make a good bouncing ball. I tried to make the fabric on the trampoline look like it stretched and It could be better but I am happy with the hr or so I spent experimenting with this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlzg_cbbak

Keep posting your work RATH, you will get great advice here.

Stephen

[funksmaname]

I think he got offended by my advice - he's been on a rampage criticizing my youtube vids lol

[RATHAHONNI]

RATH,

Here is something I tried today after reading your post here. The ball could of been more realistic but I have never been one to really make a good bouncing ball. I tried to make the fabric on the trampoline look like it stretched and It could be better but I am happy with the hr or so I spent experimenting with this.


I just watched your vid on you tube,very clever the way u tied both subjects together.And i really liked the way the fabric stretched,for the life of me i could'nt figure out how to do that,i tried.I was amazed that i was able to do what i did,it drove me nuts but i figured something out,it was only my second attempt and i'll get better,i hope,thanks for the comment now just show me how to stretch the fabric!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlzg_cbbak

Keep posting your work RATH, you will get great advice here.

Stephen

[RATHAHONNI]

I think he got offended by my advice - he's been on a rampage criticizing my youtube vids lol :wink:

Actually i was hoping for some encouragement,but it's all good, i sense that u may have a personality similar to mine so a little harmless prodding will never hurt now that i know where your coming from.And i know where i stand with this animation but watch out i'll be right behind u before u know it, if my interest continues.

[sbtamu]

I think he got offended by my advice - he's been on a rampage criticizing my youtube vids lol

I'm offended by all your advice, just cause I didn't think of them 1st....

[funksmaname]

hehe, yeah - I should have made it more obvious that i'm a prodder - the truth is that a lot of beginners post animations that obviously still need a lot of work and it perpetuates the public image that AS is strictly for 'my 1st animation' when really it's just a tool... I'm not saying these shouldn't be posted - but blind encouragement without criticism is not useful for anyone (unless it's well deserved).

When I see problems I point (or prod) them out... it's great you're enjoying using AS and clearly have a perfectly good grasp of the TOOLS - so I hoped to prod you in the rather more complex direction of improving your animations for the future - which unfortunately means crawling before you walk before you run...

[sbtamu]

RATH,

I just watched your vid on you tube,very clever the way u tied both subjects together.And i really liked the way the fabric stretched,for the life of me i could'nt figure out how to do that,i tried.I was amazed that i was able to do what i did,it drove me nuts but i figured something out,it was only my second attempt and i'll get better,i hope,thanks for the comment now just show me how to stretch the fabric!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlzg_cbbak

Keep posting your work RATH, you will get great advice here.

Stephen

What I did was make a rectangle and sheered it some then connected the corners then made an X and then connected the X in the center so I could make 4 shapes, This involves some line deletions etc. Any who, add some kinda of texture to each of the 4 shapes and lower the shape opacity to around 210. Next, make a bouncing ball or human w/e, and translate it down to the trampoline and translate the X down also. (this will take some some time to get it right)

For the fabric stretch just mess with the shape effect transforms, What I did was just raise and lower them at contacts.

Stephen

[funksmaname]

The important thing is that unlike bouncing a ball on a hard surface, you're dealing with fairly heavy objects jumping on a tense material, so there should be considerable slow down at the bottom of the bounce as well as the top, and the bit in between should ease in & out making the bit between bounces the fastest part of the movement...

[RATHAHONNI]

The important thing is that unlike bouncing a ball on a hard surface, you're dealing with fairly heavy objects jumping on a tense material, so there should be considerable slow down at the bottom of the bounce as well as the top, and the bit in between should ease in & out making the bit between bounces the fastest part of the movement...

I'm amazed how u guys have all these movements worked out,i never had to think about it before,even a walk cycle took some heavy thought, i had to really watch people and how they walked.
I've been playing close attention to the type of videos i want to produce and i noticed that there's hardly any walk cycles or moving backgrounds action,not to say i should'nt learn how to do them.Also even watching a tutorial is a learning process it's so easy to miss something and u can't always see what the tutor is keying on but i knew it would'nt be easy and amazingly enough i did manage to put something together,which you tore to pieces,lol.
To see what i'm shooting for, check out "inaseaofidiots" channel and watch "OBAMA MONEY" i really like that type of humor and there's others of that type that i like also,parodys i guess u call them,they almost got me arrested
playing around with photoshop i made a poster announcing a meeting with visitors from the KKK to discuss the final solution to the native problem.Oh well thats life.