Scene & keyframe overview??

[TDR]

I registered Moho a long time ago, bought the upgrade to 5... but am only now giving it a real workout.

I'm noticing a few things that make production more difficult in Moho than is desirable, so maybe I'm just missing some techniques or features -

How can I get a scene overview in the timeline? Being able to see the keys for a single layer at a time makes it kind of difficult to have a good sense of overall scene timing. I'm used to tools like After Effects, and Cinema4D, where I can see all the keys for all objects in one view. Barring that, is there any mechanism to indicate which layers have keys assigned to them?

All keys are represented by circles. In something like a switch layer, how can I tell which layer is being switched on? I would have thought that would display in graph view, but it doesn't.

Bones-based deformation is not available in onion skin. This makes it rather difficult to line up items which are not being deformed by the bones.

Lots more, but we can start with these.

PS - don't get me wrong, Moho is the coolest, I just want to be able to get better results faster.

Thanks for any insights.

[Lost Marble]

How can I get a scene overview in the timeline?

You can only see the keys for the current layer in the timeline. There's nothing you can do to change that view right now. We've had several requests for a "deeper" view of the keyframes, so that may come around in a future update.

In something like a switch layer, how can I tell which layer is being switched on?

Activate the Switch Layer tool (the second tool from the right, bottom row in the Layer tool group). Then, in the tool options area at the top of the main Moho window, you'll see a popup menu displaying the currently active sub-layer of the switch group.

Bones-based deformation is not available in onion skin. This makes it rather difficult to line up items which are not being deformed by the bones.

Can you upload an example file? If I use bones to control a character, and then turn on onion skin frames, I definitely do see the bone deformation in the onion skins.

[Rai López]

We've had several requests for a "deeper" view of the keyframes, so that may come around in a future update.

....Oh, my GOD!!! I add all my votes for that! This is something that I've wish for since SO time that now... "sniff" (sorry) ... now I can't wait to see it...

[TDR]

You can only see the keys for the current layer in the timeline. There's nothing you can do to change that view right now. We've had several requests for a "deeper" view of the keyframes, so that may come around in a future update.

Sounds great. I'll look forward to that. Any tips then for quickly determining just where animation actually resides in your project? Like what layers have keyframes, as compared to "passive" layers.

Activate the Switch Layer tool (the second tool from the right, bottom row in the Layer tool group). Then, in the tool options area at the top of the main Moho window, you'll see a popup menu displaying the currently active sub-layer of the switch group.

Perfect, I'll try this. Thanks. Some of the coolest Moho effects are sort of "hidden gems", thats why I am asking here, as I figured at least some of this stuff has been at least considered, if not implemented.

Can you upload an example file? If I use bones to control a character, and then turn on onion skin frames, I definitely do see the bone deformation in the onion skins.

I'm sure I was wrong then. In my tests last night I was creating a rigged character, using the frame-0 bone-offset technique (which works awesome!), and I didn't get onion skin action going in my project. Perhaps I did something wrong, or didn't have my preview options set right to actually see them. I'll test again.

This is a good forum, for a very cool piece of software. Thanks for both.